Re: Yoshie's Points about Chomsky

["Alan Maki" <alanmaki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Where oh where have all these grass-roots leaders and activists from the
sixties gone?

We need to get all these people involved in the struggles of today---
organizing the "new" sweatshops of north america, in the struggles against
globalization and against police brutality.

Most importantly, we need to introduce a whole new generation of activists
to working-class activism and Marxism.

Chomsky is good at selling books and many of his writings are very
insightful... but, what comes from what he writes as far as building any
kind of meaningful movements for change?

As Marxists we should welcome dialogue and debate to win over those young
people who are mislead by the anarchists who pose no solutions to
anything... they never have and never will.

Change takes organization.... fighting against sweatshop owners and
capitalist globalization takes strong organization.

I have never seen an anarchist build a union. Why do you think William Z.
Foster, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, Big Bill Haywood joined the Communist
movement?

I believe the way to combat the misleading aspects of Chomsky and other
anarchists is to take part in the struggles of working people for better
lives... anyone seen Chomsky on the picket-line?

Alan Maki


>From: "jon farr" <ga666@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Yoshie's Points about Chomsky
>Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 10:19:04 GMT
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>>Who is Jared Israel? I have a feeling that he is too modest to answer this
>>question, but I will on his behalf. Jared was one of the central leaders
>>of
>>SDS in the 1960s. Based in Boston, he was a key figure in the Harvard
>>Student Strike of 1969. I dare say that without grass roots leaders like
>>Jared Israel, Chomsky never would have had an audience to speak to. It was
>>SDS'ers like Jared Israel and antiwar movement organizers like myself (I
>>worked with the Harvard Student Mobilization Committee) that created the
>>movement. None of the big names from the 1960s (Chomsky, Abby Hoffman,
>>Jane
>>Fonda, et al) would have amounted to a hill of beans if it hadn't been for
>>activists like us going around late at night in cold, rainy weather
>>risking
>>arrest wheat-pasting posters for some demonstration.
>>
>>Louis Proyect
>>
>>The Marxism mailing-list: http://www.marxmail.org
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>Then I do indeed take my hat off to you Jared and apologise for challenging
>your credentials. However it is then equally confusing that  you (Jared)
>having been an activist would take credit away from Chomsky and in fact it
>would have shown good grace to share credit with Chomsky. Also this still
>doesn't excuse your Serbophilia which (credentials or no credentials) I
>find
>quite imature, I get accused of ethnocentricity all the time because of my
>distaste for much of western culture and have to guard against it, thus to
>listen to someone (even with the best intentions) blatantly slander a
>brilliant man like Chomsky makes me kind of sick.
>
>Yours Jon
>
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