Re: Analysis of the U.S. Greens

["Johannes Schneider" <Johannes.Schneider@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dennis R Redmond wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Johannes Schneider wrote:
>
> > sort of socialist party, but they are not. They are liberals right to
the
> > SPD. E.g. this weekend their budget speaker in parliament warned the SPD
> > against too much spending on social issues.
>
> Was the SPD proposing spending on education and renewable energy, or fresh
> money for asphalt barons and concrete kings? These details matter.
>

Lieber Dennis,

exactly, details matter. But lets first look at the big picture. Through the
auctions of the UMTS cellular phone licenses the finance minister got an
additional 100 billion Deutschmarks this month. Instead of demanding the
whole sum is spend for education, environment or social issues it is agreed
by all the monetarists in government only the interests (5 billion) from
this amount is to be spent. Some Greens even want to use this money to buy
back more bonds.

Now for the details: Its mostly social-democrats that want to spend the
money. Mainly to raise the amount given to families with children.
Furthermore investing into the rail system and more money for universities
is demanded.

In the whole discussion its the Greens that have taken the traditional role
of the FDP demanding 'budget discipline'.

> > There are really lots of illusions among all you North-Americans in the
> > character of the Greens as a party and their ideology.
>
> Ich kann deutsch, Kamerad.

Aber leider nicht gut genug. Kameraden treffen sich inzwischen in
Kameradschaften. Genossen gibt es dagegen nicht nur in Genossenschaften.
Perhaps you should brush up your German and do  a web search for
Kameradschaft.

> The Greens' website over
> at http://www.gruene.de/index3.htm is not exactly overflowing with
> corporate endorsements; there's a lot of good stuff there, on funding
> renewable energy, civic rights for gays and lesbians, multiculturalism,
> switching from trucks to railroads, etc.

Did I ever say everything liberals do is bad? And after all you can put a
lot of things on your party website that are nice, but dont really matter.
What matters are e.g. the following press releases linked from there
webpage:
http://www.gruene.de/archiv/pm/pm0008/PM00_081.htm
This should go to German text books as an example for 'Red-Green-newspeak'.
For those ones who dont speak German: One of the leading Greens is defending
the decission to export a whole factory for amunition to Turkey.

Mit sozialistischen Grüßen

Johannes