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RE: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel
- Subject: RE: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel
- From: "Alan Bradley" <alanb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:52:51 -0700
> From: Tony Abdo
> By the smugness in your comments, I sense a certain self-satisfaction
> and complete assuredness, that the DSP current is leading the way here.
> Am I correct?
Damn straight. Even as you were writing your post, DSP members, and ISO
members, and no doubt other Australian leftists were picketing a migrant
detention centre in Victoria, in support of a coalition of migrant groups.
I suspect that there is an "open the borders" demand in the DSP's position
on Fiji, somewhere (and yes, to _all_ Fijians!). There certainly was in
its position on East Timor.
If you look back at the GLW article on the Students and Sustainability
conference I forwarded a few weeks ago (it's in the archives), you will
note that it makes a major point of the rejection by the majority of the
conference of anti-immigration populationist politics. You can bet your
life that Resistance (DSP youth) had a whole lot to do with achieving that
result.
There are regular Green Left articles on the topic - you know where the GLW
archives are: it's been posted on the list enough times.
Do we do as much as we could? No. But we do a respectable amount.
> You and other DSP- Australia members are going to deny it emphatically,
> but you have co-thinkers here in the US. And I don't desire to run
> either DSP, or them, through the mud. And I won't get into a polemic
> about whether they exist, or not? Or to what degree?
About four of them, and they don't agree with us on everything. There may
be lots of others with similar attitudes to us on many questions, but
that's their problem.
They don't answer to us, and we don't answer for them.
> Still being a Trotskyist, as I have been for 30 years now, I don't think
> that I am off base at all in describing the situation as I have. So
> maybe what I had to say might be considered in a little less dismissive
> manner? Are you so still so sure that the current that DSP is
> connected with, is not just a tad lax on the issue I addressed?
"The current that DSP is connected with" is meaningless. Don't hold back
on any sections of the US left on our account....
If you want to bucket sections of the left for slackness on the question of
Immigration, you should target your attacks more accurately, and provide
evidence to demonstrate that your attacks are justified.
Alan Bradley
alanb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Thread context:
- Re: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel, (continued)
- Re: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel,
Tony Abdo Fri 28 Jul 2000, 17:19 GMT
- Re: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel,
Louis Proyect Fri 28 Jul 2000, 17:54 GMT
- Re: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel,
Tony Abdo Fri 28 Jul 2000, 18:37 GMT
- Re: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel,
Jose G. Perez Sat 29 Jul 2000, 02:20 GMT
- RE: Communist Internationalist Position on Immigration and Travel,
Alan Bradley Sat 29 Jul 2000, 14:52 GMT
- Brian S. was Re: working class,
Gary Maclennan Fri 28 Jul 2000, 03:24 GMT
- Fox to Unveil Clinton Immigration 'Reform',
Tony Abdo Fri 28 Jul 2000, 03:04 GMT
- re.: "working class",
Chris Brady Fri 28 Jul 2000, 01:15 GMT
- Moderator's note,
Louis Proyect Fri 28 Jul 2000, 01:02 GMT
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