Re: Fascism and Juan Peron

[Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx <xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I don't wanna jump here because I don't know the background of the discussion
very well, but didn't Peron get his military training somewhere in fascist
Germany or Italy, if my memory does not mistaken me?  I find _Peronism_ very
similar to turkish _Kemalism_ (the founding fathers of the Turkish nation-state,
who  gave an anti-imperialist struggle against the British, and then established
the official ideology of the state with a rapid program of capitalist
modernization ). Although Kemalism seems to be less populist and more
pro-western than Peronism, and that it may be less inclined to coapt the
indigenous left, it has very smaller connotations: corporate capitalism,
containment of working classes either through exclusion or co-optation (depends
on the type of the left), militarism/jingoism, and a rapid program of capitalist
modernization with the help of a state monopoly bourgeoisie, the allies of the
party cadre, who then aimed to create a *modern*/*bourgeois* Turkey that would
make Turkey sound acceptable to the west. Peronism, like Kemalism, seems to me
not a failure  of bourgeois democratic revolution, but rather a confirmation in
the semi-periphery of the world system. That is what you get there, and  in my
case, the Kemalist regime was quite welcomed by the west because although
authoritarian, it was still non-communist. But hey look, I can't speak for
Peronism that much. For example,  is Peronism more smilar to Nasserism than it
is to Kemalism. Nasserism was not welcomed by the capitalist west too. Where are
you Abu Nasr comrade?



Mine





> >Comrade Julio: Now with respect to Juan Peron in Argentina, I believe item
> (a) and item (b) can be shown to be true even though Peron used anti-British
> rhetoric in his 'bonapartism'. Item (c), I may admit, did not come to full
> bloom until Peron was gone, however, but it was well 'in-process' in-so-far
> as it was tollerated on a certain scale when Peron held office. In short,
> the level of violence against the 'left' was kept to a minimum under Peron
> (except in the trade union movement where it was blatant) but not
> extinguished by him or his leadership. You have every right to disagree with
> the criteria offered here. I only present it to justify my characterization
> of Juan Peron's leadership. However, if you generally agree with my
> criteria, then we have only to throw facts, events and Peronist speeches at
> each other to settle this point. Shall we go to this next level or shall we
> first diagree about the criteria as I have presented them?
>
> No creo en el Senior Dios! Soy Marxista-Leninista. Pero, Yo siempre digo
> "Adios" porque tan muchos otras personas creen. ?Entienden Ustd?
> Puede ser que aqui es mejor decir . . .
> "Vemos companieros!"
> George
>
> P.S. I do not know why Stalin banned Freud but I might mention that he
>      also banned Einstein as well. While I disagree with both 'bannings'
>      I fail to see that either supports or indicts Reich's
>      theories as they may or may not apply to political analysis. In
>      other words, your statement is 'true' but 'irrelevant'.
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Xxxx Xxxxx Xxxxxx
PhD Student
Department of Political Science
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
Albany, NY 12222



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