Re: Land, Bread and Sex!

["Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky" <Gorojovsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

En relación a Land, Bread and Sex!,
el 12 Jul 00, a las 20:48, George Windau dijo:

>  You see, comrade, if you buy the
> diagnosis then you also buy into the cure. If the cure is ridiculous,
> perhaps the diagnosis should be re-examined. If the diagnosis is
> 'psychological reductionist' then it may not be of interest to
> 'political' minds, no matter how much fun the 'cure' might turn out to
> be.

Now, wait a minute. I have read little Reich. I do not believe that
he can be seriously considered an organizer or a foundation for a
mass political upheaval against capitalism. But when Reich pointed to
the sexually repressive features of a formation as an important thing
that must be taken into account when describing it, he was right.
"Land, bread and sex" may sound -and does sound- ridiculous. But this
does not mean that "bread and sex", that is "production and
reproduction of human beings" can be reasonably considered -either
you approve or disapprove of the Freudian framework- the two most
basic human needs, as a natural species. They are the most basic
needs of every living creature.

Marxists should not watch the stomach only (which is allright), but
also another parts of our body. Aren't we a unity of the diverse?

>
> Now I agree that not all bourgesois sectors will happily pave the way
> for fascism. Your observation is correct here, but it is not
> enlightening.  Well and long-established bourgesoisies will thwart
> fascism as long as possible but weaker and less-established
> bourgesoisies may lack the means and the know-how to crush both a
> socialist movement one day and then crush a fascist movement on the
> next day.

Excuse me, but there is some flaw here: were the German bourgeois a
"weaker and less-established" bourgeoisie in the 30s? Concretely, was
Mr. Thyssen weaker and less-established than, say, M. Renault?

Permitting a fascist movement to attain political power so
> as to defend a bourgesoisie against a militant workers movement is an
> act of desperation, a last ditch gambit. Yet and still, once the hard
> choice is made to back the fascist on a white horse, well, shall we
> say, 'money is no object'. Let the myth-making begin and the people
> will be bombarded continuously with the chosen myth of this flavor of
> fascism, on the air waves, on the streets and in the newspapers. Thus,
> the weaker and more intimidated a certain bourgesoisie, the more
> likely that the hard choice toward fascism will be made during a
> capitalist crisis.

The "hard choice toward fascism" is, yes, a function of the
complexities of the situation a bourgeoisie is traversing during a
crisis. But fascist methods are built into capitalism, even in those
formations where "strong, more established" bourgeoisies prevail. The
only trick is that these methods are exported to their colonies. Just
think of French rule over, say, Guinea; or English rule over India;
or American rule over Puerto Rico. Herr Hitler had a lot to learn
from these democratic guys. Then he concentrated the stuff and
administered it to peoples within "privileged" Europe. That is not
all that there is to the question, but that is _most_ of what there
is.

>
> Adios
> George
>
> Adios
> George
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