Re: Doug Henwood/Mark Jones exchange (from LBO-Talk)

["Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Capitalists define greed as the driving force behind capitalism.  Greed is
only one aspect of human nature.  All social systems are rooted in human
nature.  Some systems celebrate cooperation and sharing, others celebrate
competition and greed.  It is more than inaccurate to call anyone who
criticizes capitalism as being driven by greed as a supporter of capitalism.

As for the next war, it will come whether self-styled social democrats like it
or not. It is not their call.  It is the capitalists' call. World wars are not
started because socialism has something to gain from it. Be real.  War is
merely a militarized version of competition by capitalist logic.  It is simply
naive to think that nuclear war is its own deterrent.

I suppose Ulhas will now accuse me of advocating a world war. Ulhas idea of
supporting socialism is to pretend that capitalism has turned a new leaf
toward peace or that socialism can prevent a capiatlist world war in the
coming decade.

Henry C.K. Lieu




Ulnas Joglekar wrote:

> It would be inaccurate, IMO, to say that GREED is the driving force of
> capitalism. This would amount to saying that the basis for capitalism is
> human psychology. Supporters of capitalism have always claimed that
> capitalism is rooted in human nature. Henry seems to share that view even
> when he is critical of capitalism.
>
> Further, a world war today would be a nuclear war and would involve
> destruction of humanity. Socialism today has nothing to gain from a world
> war.
>
> Ulhas
>