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Re: Capital is wrong
At 10:41 11.03.00 -0300, Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote:
>The exchange
>process, in the conditions of capitalist society, in fact NEVER ends.
>When the "consumer" finally puts an end to the life cycle of the
>commodity he is AT THE SAME TIME giving new life to a new commodity,
>namely labor force. Consumption is, at the same time, creation. And
>what you, me, everyone creates when, say we consume a pound of pasta,
>is ourselves AS A SOURCE OF SURPLUS VALUE. That is what capitalism is
>about. If you do not understand this, George, then I would seriously
>propose you to go back to the socialist kindergarten, if you have
>ever been there. Or, better still, try a season at a sweatshop in my
>home town, where you will learn lots on "commodities".
So the rejoinder decreases to:
The exchange process of commodities never ends. *What capitalism is all
about* is the process of consumption of commodities as the process of
creation of labour-power, which is - as an acting force - a source of
surplus value.
If you see yourself recapitulated correctly in this summary, could you
please comment on the difference between the exchange process *that never
ends* and the "hiding" (Marx, Capital, Volume 1, last word before starting
part III "Production of absolute surplus-value") in a sweatshop in your
home town or in Microsoft's software factory.
And by the way: You write "everyone" creates herself/himself AS A SOURCE OF
SURPLUS VALUE by consuming their food stuff. Does this also apply to the
non-productive parts of the working class and to the wage-earning
middle-class? Does it also apply to the owners of capital and to the
land-owners?
As far as I'm concerned: I don't dare to propose a brush up of socialist
basics (your term is "back to the socialist kindergarten") to list members.
HK
- Thread context:
- Re: Capital is wrong, (continued)
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Ambrose Andrews Sat 11 Mar 2000, 12:16 GMT
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky Sat 11 Mar 2000, 13:57 GMT
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Carrol Cox Sat 11 Mar 2000, 16:29 GMT
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Hinrich Kuhls Sun 12 Mar 2000, 17:02 GMT
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Hinrich Kuhls Sun 12 Mar 2000, 17:19 GMT
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky Sun 12 Mar 2000, 20:25 GMT
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky Sun 12 Mar 2000, 22:39 GMT
- Re: Capital is wrong,
Carrol Cox Mon 13 Mar 2000, 02:15 GMT
- Forwarded from Dale McKinley (on ANC, etc.),
Louis Proyect Wed 08 Mar 2000, 19:51 GMT
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