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Re: Fw: Austrian fascists
Hi Barry cannot answer this fully as I am pressed for time. But somewhere
somehow there is an old post of mine on the Marxism list to a cypber
seminar we had on fascism and which Lou might be able to dig up for me. It
was the social democrats and I would like to repost it if Lou can find
it. I lost it long ago. But it does address the role of the SD. I would
never argue that they were solely to blame but I reject the notion that the
KPD were the chief villains. Stupid and villainous they were but the most
important thing to understand that it is that that section of the working
class which seeks accommodation with capital or the master class that is
responsible for the non-development of a socialist world.
regards
GaryAt 08:37 4/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>So what does this tell us, besides the fact that you're a Trot of some kind?
>Tahir
>
> What I was trying to say was that Gary's statement that the social
>democratics were solely responsible for the rise of nazism in pre war Europe
>is not borne out by the facts.
>
>Whilst the social democrats must take their share of the blame I believe
>that in Germany the policy of the stalinists calling the social democrats
>"social
>fascists" was suicidal. Trotsky pointed out that the way forward was for a
>united front between the KPD and SPD. This policy could not in itself
>guarantee that the rise of the nazis would be stopped. But the stalinist
>policy did guarantee that the working class would be disunited and thus
>defeated.
>
>I thought that the above view would now be common currency between marxists.
>Certainly in the UK many comrades who were long term members of the
>Communist Party would not disagree with what I am saying. Perhaps Tahir
>could enlighten us with his views on this matter.
>
>Barry Buitekant
> >
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> >>>>> "Barry Buitekant" <Barry.Buitekant@xxxxxxxxx> 02/04 7:45
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> >>I thought that stalinism had something to do with the rise
> >>of nazism. But
> >>maybe I misread my Trotsky.
> >>Barry Buitekant
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- Thread context:
- Re: Austrian fascists, (continued)
- Re: Austrian fascists,
TAHIR WOOD Fri 04 Feb 2000, 11:23 GMT
- Fw: Austrian fascists,
Barry Buitekant Fri 04 Feb 2000, 21:11 GMT
- Re: Austrian fascists,
Colin Fri 04 Feb 2000, 23:21 GMT
- Re: Austrian fascists,
Macdonald Stainsby Sat 05 Feb 2000, 07:41 GMT
- Re: Fw: Austrian fascists,
Gary MacLennan Sat 05 Feb 2000, 08:43 GMT
- What's in the latest Green Left Weekly? #391 Feb 2, 2000,
Green Left Parramatta Mon 31 Jan 2000, 21:42 GMT
- Bukharin,
John Lacny Mon 31 Jan 2000, 18:48 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Bukharin,
Louis Proyect Mon 31 Jan 2000, 19:18 GMT
- Re: Bukharin,
Gary MacLennan Wed 02 Feb 2000, 03:54 GMT
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