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Re: Austrian fascists




I'm not sure what you're trying to say. A united front between the KPD and
SPD wouldn't have stopped the rise of National Socialism, as both parties'
politics were anti-working class. A significant minority of NSDAP voters
and members, around 20%, probably more, were working class because Nazi
propaganda was able to seem more radical than the 'left'. The tiny number
of German Trotskyists didn't have a way of beating Hitler because they had
no independent politics; that was one of the tragedies of the situation.

Colin
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> From: Barry Buitekant <Barry.Buitekant@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fw: Austrian fascists
> Date: 05 February 2000 04:37
>
>
>
> So what does this tell us, besides the fact that you're a Trot of some
kind?
> Tahir
>
> What I was trying to say was that Gary's statement that the social
> democratics were solely responsible for the rise of nazism in pre war
Europe
> is not borne out by the facts.
>
> Whilst the social democrats must take their share of the blame I believe
> that in Germany the policy of the stalinists calling the social democrats
> "social
> fascists" was suicidal. Trotsky pointed out that the way forward was for
a
> united front between the KPD and SPD. This policy could not in itself
> guarantee that the rise of the nazis would be stopped. But the stalinist
> policy did guarantee that the working class would be disunited and thus
> defeated.
>
> I thought that the above view would now be common currency between
marxists.
> Certainly in the UK many comrades who were long term members of the
> Communist Party would not disagree with what I am saying. Perhaps Tahir
> could enlighten us with his views on this matter.
>
> Barry Buitekant
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> >>I thought that stalinism had something to do with the rise
> >>of nazism. But
> >>maybe I misread my Trotsky.
> >>Barry Buitekant
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