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Ludic vs. Ludicrous Leninism
Of course, in developing ludic Leninism, one has to watch out for ludicrous
Leninism.
CB
(((((((((
Ooops, should have read Lou's post too, before clicking my reply to
Carroll's post.
Thank you, Lou for the info.
Michael Pugliese
----- Original Message -----
From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: ludic Leninism
> > Reminded me of this book by a pomo Lacanian Marxist-Feminist,
"Ludic
> >Feminism and After (Critical Perspectives on Women and Gender) by Teresa
L.
> >Ebert. Think it has a blurb from Judith Butler.
> > Also the cyber-Leninism site. Haven't visited that one in a while,
do
> >these comrades have truck with Lacan too?
> > Michael Pugliese
>
> I am surprised, but maybe not all that surprised, by Butler log-rolling
for
> Ebert. Ebert is part of a group of professors in upstate NY who have made
a
> career out of bashing postmodernists. They've just launched a new journal
> called "Transformation", which is advertised in the latest MR. Along with
> an article by Ebert, there are pieces by her 2 main co-thinkers, Donald
> Morton and Mas'ud Zavarzadeh, who is Mr. Ebert. It is focused on
> Butler-type issues (Queer Theory, Gender), but purportedly is built on
> four-square Marxist foundations. Doug was a big fan of Ebert until the
> scales dropped from his eyes and discovered pomo.
>
> Ebert and company organized an intervention of a cult of graduate students
> on the old Marxism list. They had been producing a really frantic and
> unreadable magazine called "Radical Orange", since it was based at
Syracuse
> University (the school's colors.)
>
> Even though Doug was friendly to Ebert's writings at the time, this did
not
> prevent them from flaming him as a postmodernist in embryo. Who knows,
> maybe they were smarter than I gave them credit for. I found them one of
> the most truly nutty groups I ever ran into in cyberspace, with perhaps
the
> exception of Maoist Internationalist Movement, whose member only
identified
> himself as Pat number #7. (Might have been Pat number #8).
>
> I
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- Thread context:
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- Re: The Real AntiWar Movement,
Jose G. Perez Mon 29 Nov 1999, 18:22 GMT
- Re: Consumerism/Frankfurters and Moby Grape Juice,
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- Ludic vs. Ludicrous Leninism,
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- REd Flag parody.,
jnstewart Mon 29 Nov 1999, 16:08 GMT
- Consumerism & John Pilger,
E.C.Apling Mon 29 Nov 1999, 12:41 GMT
- Re: Gerry Healy (Red in the bed!),
Russell Grinker Mon 29 Nov 1999, 09:04 GMT
- Re: nostalgia for McCarthyism?,
Gary MacLennan Mon 29 Nov 1999, 07:53 GMT
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