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Feedback on Marxism, ecology and the American Indian from apst reader
- Subject: Feedback on Marxism, ecology and the American Indian from apst reader
- From: Louis Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 15:18:56 -0500
Thanks for this interesting and topical posting. After wading through so
much sectariana and sterile point-scoring in this group, I'd been on verge
of dropping it as a waste of time and info-space, so it makes a refreshing
change to read something useful and raising the level.
I remember Harry Rothman saying that Marx and Engels had said that we change
our environment, but cannot do as we please with it, nature exacts its
revenge. Also that they welcomed the development of artificial fertilisers
etc but predicted that because of the growth and scale of the chemical
industry, the capital involved, and its need for markets, these fertilisers
would be over-used, and this would destroy the soil. Harry wrote a book
called "Murderous Providence", do you know it? Another book with which you
probably are familiar is Jesue de Castro's "Geography of Hunger", dealing
with nutrition and the causes of widespread malnutrition, it was published
in the 1950s, but re-issued later as "The Geopolitics of Hunger". It shows
how capitalism underdeveloped whole areas, with plantation workers worse
fed than their peasant and fishing grandparents who had been able to feed
themselves healthily.
The first articles on ecology from a political standpoint that I read were
published in the Young Socialist (SLL) paper here back in the late
1960s/early 1970s, at that time few people on the Left (or for that matter
generally) here were aware of such issues. The articles told of a river in
the US so full of chemicals it was classified as a fire risk, and went on to
describe how unthinking development in the Soviet Union had also created
huge problems, such as with the Aral Sea.
Unfortunately, these pioneering articles were an isolated example so far as
I know, and did not lead to further development. In more recent years we've
had more shallow and opportunist alliances in which the Left is content to
go along with others ideas rather than developing a Marxist perspective.
(alternatively we have the vulgar "progress"-ism by which a sect like those
around "Living Marxism" provide a gloss-cover for the reactionary politics
of big polluting corporations).
So once again, thanks for this posting.
Charlie Pottins
Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: (http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)
- Thread context:
- Decatur, ILl.,
James N. Stewart Mon 08 Nov 1999, 00:45 GMT
- bounced from Nestor #2,
Louis Proyect Sun 07 Nov 1999, 22:33 GMT
- Bounced from Nestor #1,
Louis Proyect Sun 07 Nov 1999, 22:32 GMT
- Fwd: KLA Hacks Roma newsgroup,
Macdonald Stainsby Sun 07 Nov 1999, 20:45 GMT
- Feedback on Marxism, ecology and the American Indian from apst reader,
Louis Proyect Sun 07 Nov 1999, 20:18 GMT
- Whither China?,
Louis Proyect Sun 07 Nov 1999, 14:16 GMT
- Annan stands by UN pointsman in Iraq,
Ulhas Joglekar Sun 07 Nov 1999, 13:50 GMT
- Socialist International signs on to neoliberalism,
KDean75206 Sun 07 Nov 1999, 13:26 GMT
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