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Re: A defense worse than the deed




>Louis: I just don't agree. I actually think that Matt D. had a point when
>he said what was necessary was an examination of current-day problems
>about which Trotskyism has very little to say. You yourself made the same
>point when we had our "debate". You said that a discussion of the current
>situation rather than what happened in Shanghai in the 1920s would make
>more sense.

This is always the line of people who want to forget about their own sordid
past and political line which led to defeat. In fact without understanding
the political reasons of the defeats of the past we can not move into the
future.

Everytime the reformists and centrists run into a brick wall with their
rotten politics that try to blame the Trotskyists who usually long before
pointed out just their rotten politics.

So now Louis after all his political acrobatics in defense of first the
Sandinistas and now the only thing left in his world Fidel and Che he wants
to start all over from the beginning claiming the Trots are still back in 1920s.

Ha you are a big joke Louis and here you can not hide behind the neccessity
of starting something "new". In the "new" situation. This is just bullshit.
It is the same old reformist and centrist crap wrapped in words of a
complete disregard of the working class as the only revolutionary class. And
the need for Bolshevik Leninists parties everywhere in a reforged Communist
International.

These days Louis wants to create a left liberal rag and go hide somewhere in
a new M3 away from the Trotskyists who will point out time and again the
rotten politics of the Mensheviks and Stalinists on this list..That is what
is going on here.

>I actually raised a series of questions about the problem of proletarian
>revolution in the current period in the context of the collapse of the
>USSR and the political retreat of revolutionary regimes in general.
>
>We got sidetracked into a discussion of "state capitalism" when Adam Rose
>said the problems of socialism in Cuba are actually the problems of
>capitalism.

This was not a side track but a political tendency that exists in real life
and must be defeated politically Louis. Adam, Neil, Jorn and others are real
groups in the workers movement. They of course are trying to streamline
their historically rotten line to the new situation. Then their are the
maoists of all the warring fractions also..

>I hear much too much from Hugh Rodwell each day and I don't want to give
>him an excuse to hold forth any more than he does currently. (By the way,
>pay close attention: This weekend I am posting an analysis of the nature
>of Cuban communism and the legacy of Che Guevara. For all of his bluster
>about "Stalinism" in Cuba, he will not have the intellectual or political
>means to reply to me.)

Finally, big deal. There are documents around like "Cuba and Marxist theory"
that will refute anything that you can come with on this end Louis.

malecki




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