Against Liberal gender dogma: MIM

[Maoist Internationalist Movement <mim3@xxxxxxxxxx>]

neil wrote:
> From 74742.1651@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mon Jul 22 04:07:52 1996
> Date: 22 Jul 96 04:05:14 EDT
> From: neil <74742.1651@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: mim <mim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Marxism list-e-mail <marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject:  MIM Notes/  for bosses, lumpens, scabs
> Message-ID: <960722080514_74742.1651_EHL67-1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> TO:   Mim, internet:mim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC:   Marxism list-e-mail, INTERNET:marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Re:   MIM Notes= Apologists for Rape, Bosses, scabs
>
> Dear friends,
>
> RE: MIM Notes #113
> [snip on Detroit imperialist mouthpiece strike already
dealt with on this list]
> MIM notes holds the absurd non-materialist,  ahistorical  view that ALL SEX 
> in class
> divided society is rape! (MIM Notes #113). We know maoism had a puritanical
> streak but this is ridiculous!
> This is modern day puritanism. The MIM line has more in common with
>  reactionary religoius taboos when it comes to sex. With the MIM line
> they have a maoist " contradiction" explaining how past , present and future
> MIMites  were conceived! Maybe they think it  was a MIM miracle--immaculate
> constipation!

MIM replies: Neil and Carl R. are the kind of simpletons
on gender questions who if they were consistent, would
advise exploited workers to quit their jobs as the logical
conclusion of the discovery of class. When we say all sex is rape, Neil
concludes we must be for immaculate conception. This reveals Neil's
puritan individualist streak--an unwilligness to speak
of group oppression for which there is no lifestyle
politics solution. To get to Heaven Neil and Carl want
only lifestyle answers NOW, but they have nothing in common
with Marxism which is a method of group analysis.


MIM replies:
>
> But the  reality stems from their rotten lumpen lifestyle worshiping & tailing
> and even glofification. They provide various lumpens (and others) who commit
> rapes  a left- cover  for their  deviant  and depraved activity. Yes, these
> crimes have a material basis in exploitative society , but dealing with
> the problem  on a pricipled basis does not mean covering up for
> barbaric acts of rape on a world scale as MIM does.
> MIM gives new meaning to the aclass maoist slogan "Unite ALL
> who can be united". Their new slogan should really  be "Rapists of the
> world Unite! MIM will cover up your crimes!"
>
> Carl R.
> Pasadena, Ca
>

MIM replies: First we were bourgeois Puritans; now we are lumpens
say our opponents. They don't seem to know that the imperialist
bourgeoisie is putting the lumpen in prison at record rates! If you
don't know the facts, send $2 to MIM PO Box 3576, Ann Arbor,
MI 48106 and ask for the leaflets with the figures on prison
oppression. It will be far more useful to know some facts
than to dilly-dally with ignorant dogma-slingers like Carl and Neil.

No thanks Neil; we didn't need a "Marxist" to tell us
we were puritans or pro-criminal. Such charges are readily
found in the bourgeois arsenal. There is no point in arguing
with labor aristocracy defenders of the Injustice System like you.
We only point this out once for the others on this list.

We can't expect people like Neil who can't follow
Marx, Lenin (and even Trotsky up to 1924) on the
definition of proletariat to engage
us in any meaningful discussion. His inability to deal
with the labor aristocracy or semi-proletariat guarantees
he has no chance of understanding the gender aristocracy.

We at MIM are happily leaning to alliance with the lumpen
over the labor aristocracy. That has to do with national
oppression and class. Since Neil is on the wrong side of
those questions, this is pointless discussion he
initiates.

We can say with regard to Neil's posts on "Stalinism"
at least the "Stalinists" tend to horse-trade (negotiate)
with regard to real world options on behalf of socialist
states. Please go back and explain what was served by
Trotsky's openly admitted favors to Japanese imperialism
during World War II, already described on this list.





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