Re: Update with Robert

[malecki@xxxxxxxxxx (Robert Malecki)]

Chris writes;

>Both of us face the problem of what to do about Adolfo's
>psychological bullying, which IMO is certainly connected with his
>political line of endorsing physical threats to people he
>regards as revisionists.

Actually this stuff should not be taken to personal. The Stalinists have a
tradition of being thugs when dealing with a Leninist opposition. It goes
back to the days when Trotsky was in exile and continues even today. However
there is a difference. The Stalinists no longer have state power in the
former Soviet Union and are faced with counter revolution. The best of them
will have to chose and out of this perhaps there will develop a real
revolutionary regroupment internationally around a program for proletarian
revolution..And in fact there are a lot of places in the world where Adolfos
antics if put into practice will omly give him a hard learned lesson in
workers democracy..

>
>I thought you were wise to react with self-restraint in the
>number of your postings in recent days. IMO Adolfo degraded
>himself much more than you by his "mantra" attempts to
>command you to dance in public, because he had decided you
>had overstepped the mark. But these psychological assaults
>are designed to be damaging and sometimes do real damage.
>Hope you are OK. I think I am.

Actually Aldolfo and the mantras was basically Aldolfo realising that he
lost an important battle. The question of using people facing deportation as
a fractional instrument, he was forced to back down.. The mantras was a
reaction to his political impodence in dealing with this question partially..

>
>Under the rules of this l'st you would not have got far with
>your call for his expulsion,

Actually that is determined by the character of the people on the list. If
they are prepared to allow this kind of activity which endangers a persons
life that is their problem. I went on record in saying that revolutionaries
and leftists in general must be prepared to draw a line even on Internet.
That line goes along open cop provacations like the one against Louis Godena
recently. And Aldolfo openly endangering people facing deportation..

>Your challenge about whether he approves of allying
> with a national bourgeoisie is a major continuing strategic
>question.

Yes it is!
>
>Your vulnerability was in the frequency of your posts, which
>others had found irritating. This made it easier for Adolfo
>to present you as some sort of irritating sub-human pest, who
>should be squashed. Bouncing back repeatedly, ironically
>also helped to re-inforce the image.

Actually most of my post are replys to people attacking my positions.
However i notice that no one appears to critise the enormous amount of posts
>from the maoist wars..So i see this as more of a fractional tool by the
opposition who prefer to whine then discuss politics..Actually it seems as
if we are getting a second wave of the ivory tower syndrom.

>At the moment I think we both have to avoid that, while standing
>our ground firmly. It doesn't help that some people
>like Gary are sure that Adolfo has won, but we have to
>live with the fact that there will be a whole range of opinions
>and impressions.

Yes there are different opinions and the point is to discuss these differences..
Thanks for the advice about my handle. However i am still in exile despite
being on this list. It has nothing to do with Internet or lists but
reality...And once again the spelling. Try living 24 years in exile. No
english, no swedish but something in between called Swenglish on top of and
8th grade education. This is not whining but a fact. That can,t be changed.
So i,m afraid that people will just have to accept that Malecki spells
things wrong at times...Or are poorly educated people unwelcome on this
marxism list?

>Doug gave you feedback by pointing to the speed of your
>comments.

At this point my position on Doug is that of a liberal who can count posts
and at times throw in some economic articles beside his whining about
malecki. If he says something here more political i will try to address it.
However at this point his posts appear to comment his view of participants
on this list which i don,t really give a shit about..

>Everyone is free to post here, but no one has to be read.

Exactly. However one has to take his chances like all the rest. I assume
that there are people who push the delete button on many different people
for different reasons.. That is there choice. However it is a stupid choice
because discussing and lots of flak will be the only way of sorting things
out. By avoiding this fact by pushing the delete button is basicall
stupid..Including Rolf and Aldolfo. Only by confronting people politically
can we find clarity.

>If people get into the habit of deleting your posts automatically
>they may not stand up for you when it is politically important.

If people want to delete my posts fine. What am i surpose to do cry.This is
life on the list.


>You will compete for people's serious attention with fewer posts
>that definitely bring something new to the l'st, that widen the
>range of the l'st. Although you reacted to Jon and
>assumed he was some trade union bureaucrat, I think
>he had a good point. There is information we need now about
>how the working class and democratic movement in Sweden is
>responding to the destruction of social democratic politics.
>There may be issues about campaigns against deportation. etc.

No, actually Jon basically claimed this himself. Not the bureaucrat part but
his work and not having time to read and stuff. But his intervention here
has been organisational rather then political as i see it. And as far as the
advice on drawing attention i suggest that you keep it for your self.

And finally i,m not anti intellectual. In fact some of the leaders will be
great intellectuals  in the future International. What i,m against is
intellectuals that use there smarts in an anti working class manner. Thus
throwing up smoke screens which prevent us from finding a way forward. And i
stand for my critisism of the post war left including the Trotskyists who
have basically been on the campuses
etc...

Warm regards
malecki




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