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Re: cop-baiters & gossip corridors
- Subject: Re: cop-baiters & gossip corridors
- From: malecki@xxxxxxxxxx (Robert Malecki)
- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:15:42 +0200 (MET DST)
>TO: Marxism list-e-mail, INTERNET:marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Re: cop-baiting, etc.
>
>Dear friends,
>
>I think most of us know that when certain forces have been exposed
>as politically bankrupt and impotent, they resort to unprincipled
>smokescreens and subterfuge --ie cop-baiting , personalisms
>and purely psychological critiques, gossip corridors, etc.
>
>Right now the bourgeois and their cops are too busy partying
>it up and slobbering over their profits and booty. If they
>think about us marxists right now. It is probably over a horselaughing
>joke!
>
>Lets get back to serious debate about serious issues here , help
>rebuild the militant workers traditions of mass struggle . Then
>the rich parasites and their cops probably will investigate us,
>harass us ,etc.
>But not now!
>
>Neil
Hi Neil, I agree. Here is a recent exchange on the labor party which i think
is interesting.. It is not that i support the labor party iniative at this
point, but the point is to intervene and win the best elements..
Exchange on the Labor Party...
> Chris D.writes
> >Malecki,
> > you're living in a dream world. In the United States we have had
> >hundreds of parties that took the approach you suggest of trying to win
> >"the hearts and minds of the masses." The entire system is rigged such
> >thatonly parties with the financial and human-power can get off the
> >ground. going to the masses to win their hearts and minds is important,
> >but it is not the only factor. Without the organizational strength that
> >only the unions can provide us the "masses " will never hear our message!
> >Please! Get real! We are not playing games here, we are trying to
> >organize a successful mass working class political party from within the
> >belly of the beast. It has never been done before. Not for lack of
> >trying. Millions of good working people have tried. But no-one has tried
> >the way wwe are doing it in the Labor Party now. No on has ever organized
> >the unions to create a union-based labor party on a nation-wide
> >majority-of-the-unions level. That is what is unique about this attempt.
> > History has shown that the only type of mass working class party
> >posible in a winner-take-all electoral system like that we have in the
> >United States is a union-based labor party. That's what we are trying to
> >build with the Labor Party. Only our kind of party will attract the
> >"masses" of working people in the United States because history have
> >taught them that only such a party can succeed. I challenge you to show
> >me an instance where a mass working class party has been built in a
> >county with a winner-take-all electoral system without being based on the
> >unions.
>
> Dear Chris,
>
> For the millions and millions of poor and working class people in the United
> States power is conciousness and not just electoral politics. The above is a
> conservative view and a bureaucratic manner of approaching the whole idea of
> class struggle.In fact it is a top down view of organising instead of a
> grass roots movement on all levels to create a real alternative to the twin
> parties of capitalism that run thing now..
>
> In building a labor party in the United States it is not just the trade
> unions and winning elections that will be a successful formula for power. In
> fact there are lots of possible organisation forms that could be of help.
> Women,s organisations, tenants unions, organising around health care,
> welfare, mimorities and the poor for example.
>
> I do not think that the one excludes the other. In fact they compliment each
> other.
>
> Naturally the thing that unites them is a program that is in their interests.
>
> With a broad based labor party we would be able to take part in many
> struggles on many levels in every city and town in the country both on the
> local and national levels.
>
> Our power base will be the working class and poor and their families..
>
> Naturally trade unions can give organisational strength, however local
> chapters in every working class and area in the states will give us power
allso.
>
> If we do this one can not only win elections but real power also. Power is
> people fighting in their own interests on many different levels against the
> present system which is ruled by money..
>
> For example what if the labor party through its unions took a strong stance
> on defending the churches being burnt down in racist America conneced to
> organising self defense and a program around the burning needs of poor
> people today. Health care, child care, jobs etc connected to building local
> chapters in this area.
>
> Or on the abortion issue.
>
> Or on strikles.
>
> Or on immigration.
>
> Or on Internation solidarity..
>
> In fact here in Scandinavia the chain food stores are political.
> Cooperatives versus private stores.
>
> With your line of just trade unions and electoralism will not engage the
> millions needed to really change things.
>
> In direct contradiction to this i say mass organisation and struggle on many
> levels.
>
> A labor party has to give answers and a platform for struggle and
> conciousness if we are really serious and not just playing games as you say.
>
> Forward to a Labor Party that will really change things for working class
> people and the poor.
>
> malecki
--- from list marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
- Thread context:
- Re: MPP's and Adolfo's negation of Proletarian Feminism,
Rubyg580 Sun 30 Jun 1996, 12:27 GMT
- Turkey article (fwd),
Spoon Collective Sun 30 Jun 1996, 11:20 GMT
- Another Turkey Article (fwd),
Spoon Collective Sun 30 Jun 1996, 11:19 GMT
- cop-baiters & gossip corridors,
neil Sun 30 Jun 1996, 08:13 GMT
- 5/5 Why do I think Chris is a cop?,
Rolf Martens Sun 30 Jun 1996, 07:25 GMT
- 4/5 Why do I think Chris is a cop?,
Rolf Martens Sun 30 Jun 1996, 07:19 GMT
- 3/5 Why do I think Chris is a cop?,
Rolf Martens Sun 30 Jun 1996, 07:16 GMT
- 2/5 Why do I think Chris is a cop?,
Rolf Martens Sun 30 Jun 1996, 07:13 GMT
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