Re: State capitalism?

[hariette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (hariette spierings)]

I think one very widespread disease within (and maybe
>even more outside) these groups is to connect socialism with anything
>which in some sense is in opposition to US imperialism, the market or
>whatever.
>--
>Jorn Andersen
>
>IS
>Denmark
>


I must be guilty too of considering that anti-imperialism is part and parcel
of the proletarian revolution.  Not all, but and parcel yes, and a
fundamental one at that.

I would say that such is a far stronger connection with socialism than any
ideal model of Jorn's which never existed and never will WHILE imperialism,
and US imperialism principally, continues to exist.

If to that, you add opposition to the market (i.e. to the forces of
capitalism), or moreover, WHATEVER (which would mean whatever is oppressive
in REAL class society), I would say that is apparently Jorn, and those who
partake of his style of anti-socialist rethoric dressed up as "socialism",
who actually suffer greviously of the disease of having lost all connection
with any concrete and real struggle for socialism and with reality itself.

This is one disease I like to keep.  The disease of being human!


Adolfo



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