Re: State capitalism (fwd)

[Louis N Proyect <lnp3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> As to the politcial  debate.  Sorry Proyect  wishes to cry in his beer over my
> admittedly sometimes   coarse  polemical style. But if he stops to look at the
> polemics debates of other marxists in many and varied  periods , he would see 
> that
> many tend to  use a practically no holds barred approach to this as  day to 
> day
> and even in the end, these  issues debated  become life and death questions
> for the mass movements of the working people against the capitalist   wage
> slave system..
>

Louis: Cry? No, laugh is more like it. The "polemics" and "debates" of
Marxists from previous generations you refer to is, like everything else
that the left engages in today, a cartoon version of the real thing.

As a rule of thumb, I don't think it is useful for individuals like
yourself who have never led a mass struggle of working people in their
entire lives and who belong to subatomic groupuscles to attack other
individuals and small groups as "traitors", etc.

What this has led to is a strained and uncomradely atmosphere among
Marxists that has made collaboration next to impossible. It has also made
our cause seem bizarre to people who are recruitable to our cause.
Anybody visiting this list would take one look at the sort of stuff that
you and Malecki post every time you sit down at the keyboard and slap
their foreheads in disbelief.

We are dealing with a terrible sickness among Marxists in the United
States today, particularly among would-be "Leninists" like yourself. This
sickness is based on a total inability to put things into context. You
have no idea what time it is. You also have no idea of your real size. So
instead of acting in a modest fashion as befits a person of small
accomplishments, in a period of political low ebb, you act as if you were
leading millions during a prerevolutionary situation. You think all
the chips are on the table. Wrong. Wake up, silly man. This type of
delusional behavior is endemic to the left unfortunately. You and Malecki
seem to have an extreme case of it, however.

This is the problem that revolutionary propagandists like yourself
inevitably find yourself in. Since you have no way of measuring the impact
of your rhetoric, you have no way of correcting yourself. If you were
involved in a fight to gain some reform that benefits the working-class,
you would be much better able to see if your ideas had any merit. The
progress of a fight for "Communism" can never be properly monitored, can
it?

My impression is that the sort of political culture that you and Malecki
identify with is rapidly on its way out. Most people have been thoroughly
inoculated against it from having been exposed to the bitter and
self-defeating fights of the 1960s and 1970s. Some people, of course,
never wake up. This explains Malecki's twilight-zone trip. The only thing
he is really exiled from is present-day reality.

Now what's your excuse?



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