Re: "Transitional states"

[malecki@xxxxxxxxxx (Robert Malecki)]

Adam writes:
>States in transition from what to what ?


>
>Russia in 1917 was a workers state.

Russia in 1917 was a specific workers state. A dictatorship of the
proletariat. Trotsky talked about a bridge between capitalism and communism.
he also talked about the Soviet Union being a transitional state. In
transition from capitalism to communism.
>
>After this, it wasn't. So a state in transition from a workers state to
something
>else means something for the period after 1917. For othordox trotskysists, this
>transition went on for 70 years, which seems to me to be rather a long
"transition",
>certainly 40 years longer than Trotky thought it would be. Never mind
though, at least
>I understand what is meant.
>
>But there were no workers revolutions, in the sense of revolutions made by
workers,
>in any of the other states you mention. In some ( China,Vietnam,Cuba )
there were
>revolutions, but in others, the states were produced by tanks rolling in (
Eastern
>Europe ). Nor were there workers states in the sense that Marx + Lenin meant.

Hello there! I said that the above states did not come about through a
workers revolution.
>
>I have a compost heap in my garden. I put fresh, green leaves in, and I get
brown
>rotten compost out. While the organic matter is in the compost bin, it is in
>a state of transition. It used to be one thing, and it is in the process of
>turning into another. Every so often, I open the lid, and see how the
transition
>is going on. I may toss the heap to speed up the process of transition.

Perhaps you should stick to gardening..

Warm regards
malecki in exile..




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