Re: Cuba and worker's commune

[Adam Rose <adam@xxxxxxxx>]

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> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Adam Rose wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You are the first person on this list to post anything which suggests 
> >> > there
> >> > may not be a socialist state in Cuba.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Louis: Ah yes, just what we need. More evidence of what Cuba is not. If we
> >> keep working away at this, we may someday have a complete fix on
> >> everything that Cuba isn't. Isn't this Marxism in all its glory?
> >>
> >
> >Apart from the point scoring, the real reason this matters is that the
> >question of what are we fighting for arises in a discussion about Cuba.
> >
> >Ultimately, I am inspired by a vision of a future society that I think
> >it is worth fighting and dying for. It is not worth fighting and dying to
> >bring about a society like Cuba. If Cuba is socialist, it is not worth
> >fighting and dying for socialism.
> >
> >This is not simply a question of ultimate aims, though. When a trade
> >union official, or a Labo(u)r party in power, argues that we have to
> >accept some rotten compromise, the market is invoked to justify it. If we
> >are to fight effectively for reforms in the here + now, we have to have
> >a political alternative to the market. Putting forward, or allowing
> >them to put forward, Cuba or the USSR as an example in this situation is
> >not exactly helpful.
> >
> >Adam.
> >
> Hi,
>
> But it is worth fighting for if attacked by the United States for example.
>
> malecki in exile..
>

Yes, it is worth defending if attacked by the US.
This applies to the trade boycott as much as military attacks.

But even then, I would be fighting for something different to what
the Cuban regime is fighting for, and I would advocate the use of
different methods.

Adam.


Adam Rose
SWP
Manchester
UK

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