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Re: Reply to: Re: Reply to: Re: Labour,SLP -
Louis writes:
>
> On 30 May 1996, Jon Flanders wrote:
>
> > As to the ISO, I am pretty convinced of the worker's state analysis. I am
> > a
> > partisan of the Cuban revolution. However, I hope some day that your
> > tendency
> > and others will be part of a new workers international of the sort that
> > Zeynap
> > discussed. The need for such an organization is becoming clearer to broader
> > sections of the working class.
> >
>
> Louis: This is an extremely important point. Adam makes agreement with
> "state capitalism" the parameter within which revolutionary socialism must
> fall.
No, I don't. Jon is a revolutionary. Not only that, he is extremely unusual
amongst revolutionaries, in that I think he takes a very similar attitude
to mine when it comes to issues like the Trade Union Bureaucracy and Reformism.
I can't quote word for word from ISO's "Where we stand" , but it's almost word
for word like Jon's :
"However, I hope some day that your tendency and others will be part of a new
workers international of the sort that Zeynap discussed."
The task facing Revolutionaries today is to build relatively small groups of
socialists. Such groups are bound together by a shared set of politics.
They have, not only to act together, but attract people to a view of the world
as it as and how to change it.
The state capitalist analysis has enabled us to work out a style of operating
which keeps workers self emancipation at the core of our politics, inside the
mainstream Leninist tradition, without collapsing into Stalinism, almost alone
on the left internationally.
In particular, it gives us a certain attitude to Trade Union Bureaucrats and
Reformist politicians, neither overly accomodating nor ultra left, which has
enabled us to prosper when others have collapsed. The two things, how you
operate, and how you see the USSR, Cuba etc are related.
We think this set of politics fits reality and therefore allows us to build,
better
than any other. If you disagree, act on your politics, and we shall see who
is right. In this sense, I cannot find fault with Jon's replies, as I have
already privately indicated, other than to politely argue my corner about the
link between the theory of State Capitalism and the practise of workers
self emancipation.
Comradely,
Adam.
Adam Rose
SWP
Manchester
UK
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- RE: Jose Saavedra: "net.terrorist", (continued)
- Re: Anonymity and the internet,
zodiac Thu 30 May 1996, 13:29 GMT
- Reply to: Re: Reply to: Re: Labour,SLP -,
Jon Flanders Thu 30 May 1996, 13:22 GMT
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- Re: Reply to: Re: Reply to: Re: Labour,SLP -,
Louis N Proyect Thu 30 May 1996, 14:26 GMT
- Re: Reply to: Re: Reply to: Re: Labour,SLP -,
Adam Rose Thu 30 May 1996, 16:55 GMT
- Re: Reply to: Re: Reply to: Re: Labour,SLP -,
Louis N Proyect Thu 30 May 1996, 17:39 GMT
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Adam Rose Fri 31 May 1996, 09:40 GMT
- Detroit Red Wings go splat,
zodiac Thu 30 May 1996, 13:16 GMT
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