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Re: Much Struggle is Good!
I started to write this a few days ago in response to the
reply signed by The New Flag, but have held up sending on
account of my concern for Quispe and the security problem
he appeared to be having. He seems to be okay now. -Jay
>> Greetings;
>>
>> Especially after spending the entire of last weekend in New York
>> at the Resist96 event struggling with avakianists and others
>> about the "peace accords" and "two line struggle" within the PCP,
>AND DISTRIBUTING THE NEW FLAG AND THE MATERIALS OF THE MPP.
>
and also the call for the World Mobilisation Commission and El Diario
International (EDI) ,which by the way the EDI we got from you also.
You provided us for distribution many fine articles by Borja who you have
attacked viciously and unprincipally this last week. You have called
comrade Borja, "MOTHER COURAGE ARCE BORJA". "Mother Courage" was a proven
enemy of the people who was justly executed. It is wrong for you
to attack comrade Borja in this manner. Do you mean Borja deserves
the same fate as the enemy Moyano? You have also incorrectly called
Borja "THE BOGUS PCP LEADER BORJA" which is exactly what the
leadership of RIM called him; "Luis Arce Borja, bogus spokesman of
the PCP". Comrade Borja never claims to be leader or even a member
of PCP. The Articles Borja has written which you have provided us
makes that very clear. Why do you make him to be the enemy and
then distribute his line? Your line here on comrade Borja sounds
very similar to the Avakianists. You should make self-criticism
and cease to attack our comrades.
>> I am thinking that it is very incorrect to say that it is part
>> hoax, part truth. The whole thing began with Fujimori's government
>> and not from within the Party.
>IT IS INCORRECT AND THE CHARLATAN IS AN EXPERT IN FALSIFYING THE
>POSITIONS OF EVERY POLITICAL OPPONENT. WE UPHOLD THE PARTY'S
>POSITION, THE DOCUMENT BASIS OF PARTY UNITY (PUBLISHED IN THE NEW
>FLAG AND THE MAGAZINE OF YOUR FORMER BOSS AND DEAR LEADER AVAKIAN
>WORLD TO WIN) READS THAT THERE WAS A PURGE.
He is not my dear leader and I have no longer any connections with
the traitor yankee revisionist and I denounce him and his political
line. I seem to recall that you worked with the scum avakianists
yourself for quite some time, so maybe terms of endearment is for
your own sake. Your line you have been putting out of late is
hard to distinguish from the avakianist-C0RIMists. The article
you posted tonight refers to "yankee revisionists" but you do
identify them by name.
WHO WHERE PURGED? THE
>HANDFUL OF CAPITULATORS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY. HISTORICAL LEADERS
>SUCH AS COX, MOROTE, MECHE, ETC. ARE NOT WOCKED CHARLATAN LIKE OLAECHEA,
>THEY WERE PROVEN FIGHTERS AND IDEOLOGISTS OF THE REVOLUTION. FYI, THEY
>CAPITULATED. THE "INDIVIDUAL OF SWEDEN" MENTIONED IN THE CC DOCUMENT
>THAT WE FIRST RELEASED WORLWIDE, FYI AND CLARLATAN OLACHEA'S WAS A
>MEMBER OF THE CC. IN CHARGE OF ALL MPP'S (FULL MEMBER IN CO-RIM).
>HE ALSO CAPITULATED. IS THIS 100% POLICE OPERATION? IS THE ROCKIE
>POLICE OF FUJIMORI, THAT SOPHISTICATED AS HE CLAIMS. NO.
>The Party based on the Maoist principle that "masses make history"
>turns the issue to each base and generated organism in the country
>to analyze, denounce and defeat the counterrevolutionary hoax. Most
>of them did and renew the struggle based on an ideological dynamics
>emanated in the first Conference of the Party in February 1994
>(here the Party several documents along with the Bases of Party United, an
>updated version to the one emanated in the I Congress.)
>
> If the entire party took up the
>> hoax, or a million people took it up, would it not still be a
>> HOAX, a lie?
>As a Party of mass character, ingrained in it, supporters,
>militants and friends took a position in this crucial issue
>and upheld the proletarian position of rejecting it.
>When the CIA or its brain child SIN fabricate a lie -not all
>components of a hoax are lies- if that would be the case their
>story would be totally unbelievable and would not even confuse
>anyone. Who did they target? First the Party, they sought a split and
>failed. Second, the masses to demoralize them, "look guys your
>leaders are capitulating..." This also failed, the bases of the PCP
>carried out the struggle of calrification and unmasking of the hoax.
>Here is something you and Charlatan Olachea cannot understand: The
>documents presented by the handful of capitulators use Party language
>and has been generated not only in the offices of SIN but also in the
>jail of Yanamayo where the bulk of capitulators are found. These
>traitors were members of the Party for several months after Fujimori's
>announced the hoax in the UN. The International Directive is dated
>December 1993, Fujimori's show was few months before. It means that
>during that time, the capitulatores (still members of the Party)
>sought treason and surrunder through a "National Directive" allegedly
>received from the leader of the revolution. Is this purely a police
>operation as Arce claim? No, of course not. Beyond the actice
>participation of SIN/CIA, there is an ideological
>component behind it and the history of the Party shows that that is the
>case. We sustain that the struggle against capitulation within the
>Party was resolved in early 1994 with the developnent of new forms
>of struggle superior to those of reaction which allow the Party
>overcome and defeat the reactionary offensive of the regime.
>
>
> This is a very important point, as the avakianists
>> are still promoting that there is yet going on in the PCP a two-
>> line struggle over the peace accords, and even that Gonzalo is
>> the originater of the call for peace accords.
>The first point is true. The second is not. The RCP creates doubts
>whether or not President Gonzalo is the author of the letters, and
>the purpose is obviously to cover its traitorious silence with
>the issue.
>
I do not agree. The second point is also true. We have recieved from you
a CORIM document, "Circular 2-10" which states:
"In the aftermath of the Clavo interview, supporters of the right
opportunist line in the PCP of seeking a Peace accord have circulate
a leaflet claiming that Chairman Gonzalo has issued another "instruction"
to supporters abroad commenting on the Clavo interview and including
a paragraph quoting Clavo which did not appear in the press accounts
in which she makes a "self-criticism" for allegedly "deceiving
the RIM" about the nature of the peace accords. The text of this
leaflet is also enclosed."
"It is hardly necessary to point to the seriousness of this situation.
First of all, the fact that a major leader of the Central Committee
has changed her position and is now supporting the right opportunist
line is itself a significant blow to the Party Leadership. Moreover,
her claim to have met with Chairman Gonzalo further strengthens
suppositions that Chairman Gonzalo is indeed proposing the line of
seeking a peace accord." (page 2 of CoRIM Circular 2-10)
This doesn't seem to leave any doubt what RCP/CORIM is
saying. Ands in our discussions over the weekend in NY with many
avakinaists, that is what they are implying.
>> I am not trusting those who are promoting the avakianist line.
>We think Olaechea is closer to Avakian than us.
I have not called you avakianist. In this very document I state
I do not think you are. But lately you are act like the avakianists
we have known and that concern me very much.
>
>> I am not sure about all this going-ons about this Swedish stuff.
>> I admit I am confused by some of, Is this T.P. the "individual
>> in Sweden" mentioned in PCP document? Or another?
>Why don't you learn a little bit before you sink deep with Olaechea?
Frankly I would like to but you haven't helped here. All talk about
liqours and Queens Elizalbeths bloated rats and crystal balls aren't
helping to clarify anything. Ito would almost seem like you doing all this
to avoid the issue and create a diversion. Throwing all that about
Ken (Zodiac) being a snitch and simon strong. How is that making
anything clear? I been around the block a few times and I know
a song and dance routine when I see one. Let's get honest and stop
the nonsense.
>
>> I am looking at the political line,
>> political line is key, not personalities.
>Read the PCP Mass Line, PG states: "political line is not enough..."
>Where is the pratice, where is the mass work? where is the leadership?
>
We have practice, we do mass work, we can lead, so can and do many
thousands of supporters worldwide that can be drawn into the work
that are now excluded from RIM.
> I think the WMC will include far, far more people and groups
and parties than will be excluded.
>THE PCP DOES NOT PARTICIPATE. NO MPPs WILL PARTICIPATE. THAT IS THE BIG
>PROBLEM.
I find it hard to believe that MPPs wouldnot participate in an
effort to build worldwide support for the PW but you would uphold
continuing on in bogus organization like RIM which has
treacherously stabbed the PCP, PW and President Gonzalo in the back.
You are right that is a big problem if it is true.
>ARCE AND OLAECHEA WERE NEVER MEMBERS OF THE PARTY, THEY ARE FRIENDS BUT
>FRIENDS HAVE THEIR OWN INTERESTS WHICH MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY THE
>PARTY'S.
>
I understand that and I have never heard them claim otherwise.
> How many persons, groups are now excluded from RIM? How
>> many do not even want to be part of RIM because of avakianist
>> leadership?
>YOU MAY HAVE JUST GRIEVANCES WITH AVAKIAN SINCE YOU WERE EXPELLED
>FROM HIS PARTY. BUT HERE WE SEE POLITICALLY. THE PCP IS STILL A
>FRACTION OF THE RIM, IT STILL PARTICIPATES IN THIS ORGANIZATION.
That is interesting, as I have not been at all certain about that.
How does PCP participate? How do any of the groups participate
in RIM? What does RIM do except attack the PCP and President
Gonzalo? Why would PCP participate in these things? If you
or Comrades Gina or myself wanted to participate in RIM,
would we be permitted? Not that any of us would of course. Of
course we can't. How can you struggle with them? What is their
address? When do they meet? The contradictions with the CORIM
is not one of contradictions among the people. They are contradictions
between the enemy and the people. It is not a matter of struggling
with comrades making a mistake. There is no two-line struggle
with the enemy.
>
>>>
>> I have many questions and concerns about the WMC and its
>> organization, but I have confidence that things will be
>> worked out.
>WORKED HOW? THE MPPs (ORGANIZATIONS OF THE PCP) ARE BEING
>CALLED "IMPOSTORS" AND THE MAOIST PARTIES MEMBERS OF THE
>RIM ARE IGNORING THIE CALL OF THE TWO INDIVIDUALS. ALL YOU WILL
>HAVE WILL BE A FAKE INTERNATIONAL HEADED BY THE CHARLATAN.
And the RIM is so better that we should preserve it? Better to keep
"FAKE INTERNATIONAL: RIM" than put genuine effort into trying to
create real support? Are there no fake MPPs? Should imposters
and avakian be participants in our support organization? What objection
would anyone have to exclude fakes? Who would object? I have
read the wording of WMC very carefully and only ones who could
object would be the imposters and those who have been treacherous.
>
> I have respect for Borja, for El Diario International,
>> and for Olaechea.
>That's fine.
>>
>> I also have respect for Quispe and the New Flag. We work with
>> the New Flag in this country and their practice thus far has
>> been VERY admirable. I do not think they are avakianists, nor
>> rightists. They are very concerned about building support for
>> the Peoples War in Peru. There seems to be some opposition
>> to the WMC on their part, but a lot of it seems to be concern
>> about the organization of it, and just who will be excluded,
>> and who will lead. These are legitamate concerns and should
>> be addressed.
>That's also fine.
>
>> I might be crazy or naive, but I think we are still all on
>> the same side yet. Everyone is struggling very hard for
>> the line they think is correct. This is very good. The
>> correct line will win out. Everyone's method may not be
>> exactly correct, no one is perfect. Much struggle is very
>> correct. The line will be all the better for the struggle.
>You may be right. Wether we like it or not, the individualists/
>"public figures" are still in the side of the people, we do not
>consider them reactionaries, we still fighting the same battle,
>the rest is rethoric. As a matter of fact, we print a special
>interview of Arce in the New Flag, he immediately replied with a
>thank you letter. We practice struggle-unity-transformation.
>And to face the common enemy: Unity in the Struggle.
>The New Flag.
I certainly hope so, but you do not act like it. You have made
serious accusations lately, that Adolfo is Azcueta, Borja is Moyano
and Rolf is CIA agent. You have implied that I am a fool and that
another comrade is opportunist. Look, I am telling you the truth.
Your line and behaviour on this list and the Peru and Tumi list has
been nothing like the line and practice of Maoists. You have been
discrediting the New Flag with avakianist antics. You are doing a
great dis-service to the Peoples War which we are promoting. These are not
correct and you should practice self criticisms around these grievious
errors.
-Jay Miles / Detroit
>> PROLETARIANS OF THE WORLD UNITE!
>>
>> Jay Miles / Detroit
>>
>>
>>
--- from list marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
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- Market Disciplines,
Chris, London Sat 11 May 1996, 08:18 GMT
- Re: Much Struggle is Good!,
detcom Sat 11 May 1996, 07:10 GMT
- "Maoist economics",
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