Re: Characteristics of slums - urban poor?

[Zeynep Tufekcioglu <zeynept@xxxxxxxx>]

>Sorry to butt in Hugh:
>
>The revolution does not need "high octane fuel".  Your "technologically
>advanced methaphore" somehow reminds them of the old one of "cannon fodder".
>The revolution does need a leading class, and it is got one, the proletariat
>which generate its communist Parties as the thinking and guiding organ of
>the class.

Honestly, Adolfo did Hugh say anything contradicting "The revolution does
need a leading class, and it is got one, the proletariat". I think not.

>The working class, to strenghten their hand in the contest against the
>semi-feudal-semi-colonial states such as Peru and Colombia and also Brasil,
>needs to draw to its side the masses of the poor as ALLIES and not as cannot
>fodder or any sort of fuel doing the dying and "burning themselves out" for
>the benefit of the "correct leadership".

Yup, I knew that the third-worlders' would understand by problem- Sorry the
rest of you :-)

Adolfo, can you tell me more of what hapenned in Peru, Colombia and Brasil,
as you mention. I know what *must* be done on paper, can you write a little
more about the experience.

A point in passing, Peru I won't comment, but Colombia and Brasil are
semi-feudal, and semi-colonial? I'd tend to disagree. They seem like
integrated in the chain of imperalism somewhere in the middle as capitalist
countries. Are you saying semi-feudal and semi-colonial in the clasic Maoist
definition of the term? Eloborate a bit on that sometime, will you...

>The revolution is "fuelled" - meaning that its fires are stoked - by the
>actions of the ruling classes and their states in repressing the poor
>fighting for their livelihood and the future generations.
>
>Moreover, your slogan:
>
>"Food, Flats, and Freedom from Crime", is the very slogan of every tin-pot
>dictator and electoral drug money financed swindler in Latin America, take
>two or three pennies either way from the price of potatoes!
>
>Sorry, but maybe you ought to take a sabbatical in Latin America, Hugh

Again, I find myself agreeing with Adolfo, I don't know about the sabbatical
one though. (Can *I* take one there?).

That slogan is what every bourgeois politician says here anyway and always.
They now keep telling each other, "see, if they had food and flats, they
wouldn't behave so badly."

In solidarity,
Zeynep



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