Re: marxists & gay liberation

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Gary wrote:

>Chris B., Charlotte, Gina, Jay, Luis Q., Luis Godena, Chatterjee, Cronin,
>Matt D. have all said nothing.  Do they support Olechea's position?

I suspect others may feel as I do, that your yapping is not even worthy
of a reply.  It is not a serious concern of yours, why should we bother
with something you are not really caring about.  You aren't really wanting
to discuss the class struggle, gay liberation or the emancipation of
anybody.  Here is what you really want:


>Why am I here then? well I have returned mostly out of anger at the vulgar
>triumphalism of the Maoists. "Great victory" indeed.  I was determined to
>show them that in the words of the great American phimosopher, Yogi Berra,
>"It ain't over till it's over."

You aren't here to help further the world revolution.  You who tried to
censor the revolutionaries on the list, failed in the attempt, were
humiliated and you fled in shame.  Finding no lodging appropriate for
your liking, you came back, all full of noise and smoke, telling Proyect to
"sic 'em, Lou, get them for making me look like a fool."  To Proyect's
credit, he did not allow himself to be used in your small game.  In your
own words you are only here for the purpose to "show them".  When you
could not get someone else to do your dirty work for you, you rummaged
around in your moldy luggage looking for a weapon however blunt and puny
to use against your foes, reaching back decades and decades before most
of us even born and thinking you find something, you embarrass yourself in
front of the denizens of this list who all know what your small endevour is
all about.  Even your few allies in this ploy do not really kid themselves
that you are concerned with "emancipation".  You wish to save face and
be somebody, hero or something, it is kinda sad.  You are only appearing
more and more counter-revolutionary.

Yes, I believe Gina and others are "busy with the two lines."  The two
line struggle over the way forward and around the World Mobilisation
Commission are very important.  You and your baiting are only like my
small dogs yapping and nipping at the heels while we are involved in
things so important you cannot even know.  Your anger and backwardness
blind you to them.  You puff up with pride over your good class background
but you have nothing to do with proletarian ideology or proletarian
revolution.  You spend time continous attacking the proletarian
revolution.  Get up off it.  You should remold your world outlook, if
people from other classes can take up the proletarian ideology, surely
it will not be much harder for you (if indeed you are a proletarian)
than it was for them.

I should not even have taken these couple minites to bother with you.
I sincerely hope you find your way out of the swamp you find yourself in.

Jay Miles / Detroit


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