Re: CEP's correction on Intellectuals and the Working Class

[iwp.ilo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (CEP )]

You(Gina) wrote:
>Gina:  Wow! amazing that you can still  read his mind(Lenin), him
being
>dead all these years and all!
>
    Carlos:
    Lenin wrote that long before he died. (Historical fact)

    Carlos:
.
>
>>    Theses: "Intellectuals have a very important role to play: that
>>    of auxiliary research hands and brains of the revolutionary

>>    movement ... that of teachers, educators and propagandists ...
that
>>    of a shield to combat the "official bourgeois" intelligentzia ...
>>    but the working class *is the brain, the muscle and the class
with
>>    the means to organize, direct and lead the revolutionary

>>    movement*... intellectuals are part of the proletariat insofar
they
>>    break with their own class, their own interests as part of that
>>    class and with the ideology that is attached by the fact that
they
>>    belong and *trained* by that class ... they are part of the
working
>>    class as *its adoptive class* ...
>
    Gina:


>Gina: Check it out: INSOFAR AS THEY BREAK WITH THEIR OWN
>CLASS AND THEIR OWN INTERESTS AS PART OF THAT CLASS,
>AND WITH THE IDEOLOGY THAT IS ATTACHED [TO THAT CLASS
>POSITION]   How many of the wonderful intellectuals on this list,
>including Mr. Carlos CEP, have really done that?
>
>Gina/ Detroit


    Carlos:

    Sorry, Gina ... forgot to tell you ... I wrote that theses, not
    Lenin ... I didn't break with my class (three generations of
    workking class militant tradeunionists and left socialists -- I
    worked in factories --- printer, you know ... an others -- for
    over 20 years of my 48 of existence ... I become sort of
    intellectual by way of militating in the left ... by the way, I
    know about two or three dozens intellectuals in this list that
    had adopted the proletariat in deeds and ideology as their
    adoptive class...   they are called *Marxists*

    BTW, what's *your* vbackground .... judging for your petrified
    undialectical views, seems to me you're attached to the middle
    class as much as many you criticize....

    Hasta pronto,

    Carlos


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