Re: MAL: Re: Sex: What do communists stand for?

[malecki@xxxxxxxxxx (Robert Malecki)]

>>In a message dated 96-04-13 12:32:14 EDT, you write:
>>
>>>From: Robert Malecki <malecki@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Subject: Re: Sex: What do communists stand for?
>>
>>>>Another proletarian opinion:
>>>>If I can't fuck, you can keep your revolution!
>>>>
>>>>                            -- Jeff Booth
>>
>>>That is very true and very funny!
>>
>>Talk about totally self-serving, bourgeois mentality.  Asserting the
>>right to "fuck", with no mention of any regard for the other person
>>who necessarily has to be involved in a "fuck".  Sorry, guys, there's
>>nothing proletarian about this shit, and for the victims and potential
>>victims of your "right to fuck" mentality, nothing funny either.
>>
>>Gina/ Detroit

WOW! self serving bourgeois mentality! I never thought of it that way.And
just think working class women are victims. WOW! I impressed. In the maoist
world fucking will probably be forbidden as bourgeois mentality! How goes it
for women in China Gina? It will be extremely interesting to hear what you
call your Maoist comrades
on the women,s question. Especially when the only crime here was wanting to
express the wish of getting laid in a coming revolution.

If you want to really take up this question i suggest that we start by
calling for sexual education starting in perhaps the fourth or fifth grade
as here in Sweden.
By 15 most kids have a fairly good fundamental idea of the sexual question
including most of the various different combinations. It is presented to
them in a fairly unbiased and factual way. Sexual debut is early in Sweden
because kids have received an education in this matter. It also avoids a lot
of nasty deseases. It gives children the ability to grasp this knowledge
rather then it being surpressed or biased by the beleives of family members.
In the future society it will be a absolute must sex education from the 4
grade and upwards. In fact one should certainly not wait till we take power
but defend those programs which are being attacked in schools today by the
christian fundementalist.

Why one could even have a gay person come to skol and talk to the kids. Or
why not a lesbian women for example. Aids patients for ex. Yes children
should certainly have the right to this information in a pedagogical and
unbiased matter.

What do you think Gina?

Wouldn,t it be great to smash down the walls of medival and bourgeois sexual
oppression. It will be in fact one of the central tasks of communist in
educating children about this kind of stuff. Just think a girl and a boy
getting laid without a lot of guilt crap. Or other combinations without
repression from society. Sex is a powerful weapon in the hands of the enemy.

Why even Stalin and the Maoists understand that.see below how clever Aldolfo is?

>
>Very pertinent Gina's comments.  Evidently the "pimp mentality" and the
>"right to sexually exploit" advocates who have taken with their "jolly old
>boys comments" to the list on this issue, have nothing in common with
>proletarian outlook, rather, theirs is the "mercenary soldier" of
>imperialism credo.  Why take part in a war if you cannot loot and rape to
>your hearts content.  That is the meaning of their "struggle for survival".
>You ask any soldier of fortune, and he will roll out the same bloody
>excuses:  "struggle for survival"!
>
>It is all now coming out in the washing!  Sexual imperialism and sexual
>fascism, masquerading as "liberation"!.
>
>Adolfo Olaechea

Aldolfo and Gina,

You will not get out of taking a position by screaming cop. Nor can you
start talking about soldiers of fortune. The only real thing that comes out
>from above is that if workers want to get layed to Gina that is at best men
throwing themselves over women.Obviously for Gina working class women and
men can not have the right to do anything without the permission of the
chairman.

Aldolfo on the other hand attacks me personally. Obviouly defending women
who were bringing vital information to the VC about things is some sort of
soldier of fortune mentality or struggle for survival is out of Aldolfo grasp.

In the first place Aldolfo doesn,t know anything about my personal life. In
fact he draws all the wrong conclusions just about everything. But the point
here is that political cowards and aldolfo is certainly that usally try to
avoid answering a direct question by slandering people. This is typical of
the Stalinist historically. When you can,t answer them, slander them, when
that don,t work you beat them up, and if that don,t work you murder them.

THe only thing that comes out in the wash here is that you avoid the
question. Do communists fight for sexual liberation and education. Do
communist defend the right for consenting adults (!) (gina do you read?) to
do what they want in their sexual lives.Are you for sexual education , lets
say from the fourth grade up as mentioned above Aldolfo.

The only perverts on this list are the Stalinists who think that by
attacking working class kids who like sex, fucking, or what ever they want
to call it, as sexual imperialists, just shows how bankrupt maoism is. If
there is anybody on this list who enjoys sex, watch out for aldolfo  if he
gets real  power. Under the guise of "Leninist" retoric he wants to stick a
cork up peoples asses..

malecki




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