New list purposal vs workers

[Robert Malecki <malecki@xxxxxxxxxx>]

About the new list purposal for a moderated group for marxist discussion.

 Note that i would * not* vote against the creation of any "marxist"
discussion group.

However, as a serious militant working class guy i would like to state the
following to this list.I read very closely this letter. What comes to mind
when people like lisa purpose the neccessity of a new moderated group of
marxist discussion is neccessary, is that it also is a smokescreen.

It is fairly cheap being anti-Stalinist today. In fact it probably takes
much more guts to defend Stalin as Aldolfo and others on this list do. The
Stalinists are dead wrong and those who will carry on the tradition of
stalinism will have to be defeated  politically in the future. This task
will be much easier after the fall of the Soviet Union

But i have a feeling that the groups proposed by Lisa is going to be filled
with           a lot of people, who perhaps are "anti Stalinist" but are
traitors to the revolution also. There are numerous groups, organisations
and individuals who both in
practice and theroy are  centrist or reformist if not out right petty
bourgeois in there outlooks and practice over the years. They only reason
they have not betrayed the working class on anything is because they have
been to small in order to do that. This is perhaps an attempt by these
groups and individuals of uniting in a anti stalinist front to cover up all
the twists and turns they themselves have been making over the years.

Naturally as a worker i oppose these backroom deals of "revolutionaries" who
will unite against the Stalinist in order to cover up their own opportunism.
Down with anti-stalinist rotten blocks of fake leftists.

Fore an open discussion in front of the working class and its organisations.
After all the historical betrayals we hardly need the anti-Stalinist fake
revolutionary block of opportunists, state capitalists, and other rotten
formations.

So you wanna get cozy and discuss everthing you always knew about the
Stalinists. Well, you are political cowards who build moderated groups where
workers are not allowed in order to continue in your little world of groupies.

I will vote for this purposal in uppholding the right of people to discuss
politics. But I say to workers on this list, if there are any. Don,t trust
anybody who claims they are anti-Stalinist that is not enough.

 Anybody who can not clearly fight for their politics openly on the Internet
or elsewhere usually have something to hide and that usually is politcal
bankruptcy.
Workers should condemn backroom meetings called by "special groups"  which
are moderated and workers and poor people are not allowed.

These creeps, who claim they are fighting in our interests must prove
themselves in struggle and not bye sitting in backrooms patting one another
on the back about how anti Stalinist they are, or how revolutionary they are.

I say vote *yes* to this group.Because as a worker i am for free discussion.
But don,t trust any of these creeps who will hide behind "moderated" groups
in order to discuss our future. If they have any aspirations to lead workers
then they will have to come out of the closet.

Malecki <Member of the communal workers union>











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