WHAT HAPPENED IN INDONESI

[luigi.candreva@xxxxxxxxx (Luigi Candreva)]

Tu, HARIETTE@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, hai scritto alle 00:21:60:

 HA>That you don't even know what you are talking about
 HA> and are only repeating baseless charges circulated by
 HA> the bourgeois reactionaries.

     All my sources and quotes were from:
1. Peking Review
2. Aidit, president of the PKI, praising Sukharno
3. Your posts on "subordinating class (or immediate) interests
to national interests"
4. Theses of Lenin's Comintern in contrast with Mao's
menshevism on "Third World"
5. Margarete Buber-Neumann (wife of one of the founders of the
Communist Party of Germany) on German communists that Stalin
delivered to Hitler.

     You have a strange idea on what the "bourgeois
reactionaries" are.


 HA> Why are you obssessed with
 HA> thing of the past

     You think to have the right to call comrade Project and
others in this list "fascist" and of the same type of the
moral accomplices of Pinochet and Suharto. And when I exposed
who the real accomplices were (i.e. Chairman Mao), you are not
interested in debating "thing of the past"?
     Furthemore you posted a long and trivial article on
Italian fascism "demonstrating" that it arose from the right
wing of the sd. It seems to me that you have yet to decide
wich stalinism to follow: that of third period or the popular
frontist one?


 HA> You can see that the bourgeosie nods in agreement with
 HA> you everytime you slander Stalin, and the you dare to
 HA> call comrades revolutionaries who owe so much to Stalin
 HA> in ideas and example?

     Very clever, comrade Adolfo! I work shoulder by shoulder
with comrade who consider themselves stalinists: we do
strikes and pickets togheter.
But notwistanding the militancy of rank-and-file membreship Stalinist tops were

(and are) reactionnary in terms of the interests of the
working class: basically Stalinism is an ideology of class collaborationism.
Because, despite what you think, the
bourgeoisie owe a lot to Stalin (and to the Stalinist leaders),
more than the PCP. They owe to Stalin the bourgeois rule in Italy and Greece. A
 the
Indonesian bourgeoisie owes to Mao the disarming of the PKI
and the Indonesian workers and peasants.
     I think that if you go through the socialdemocratic press
during the Moscow trial (remember, time of Popular fronts) you
will get some surprise on how the socialdemocrats nodded to
the destruction of the entire cc of the Bolshevik party that
made the revolution.


 If you think Stalin was so bad,
 HA> why don't you prove it leading a revolution with your
 HA> ideas and putting them into practice without need to
 HA> get anyone's approval?

     You have nothing more intelligent to say? I.e.: you
admit to have lost the discussion?

Comradely, Luigi

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