Re: separate M1 and M2

[hariette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (hariette spierings)]

>Justin S was kind enough to inform me that there's no problem with respect
>to the First Amendment:
>
>>In First Amendment terms, this is a Time, Place, and Manner regulation,
>>content neutral, quite innocent. We'd fight for them if someone wanted to ban
>>their views from the net. That doesn't mean we have to listen to them.
>
>Fair enough. We're in cyber-America and when in cyber-America, do as the
>cyber-Americans do.
>
>However, what I really wanted an opinion on was the question of the right
>to a defence, to due explicit warning before sanctions are implemented and
>so on. You know, to avoid kangaroo courts, summary procedures and the
>things everybody was so het up about in another place at another time. The
>old categorical imperative, sauce for the goose and sauce for the gander,
>fair dos and all that - basically, how universally democratic are the
>principles of bourgeois democracy?
>
>Please?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Hugh


Ah, but you see Hugh, in Peru, the PCP does not operate "kangarro courts",
it operates people's justice, People's Courts.  Here, a small number of
people, no more than 1% (30 out of 341) took it upon themselves to speak for
the people and demand censorship of ideas in order to protect their own.
Even those 30 were not that united, as it was proven in the end.  That rump
- or tail if you want - wanted to impose counter-revolutionary censorship
against a number of people without given them a hearing, a chance to explain
properly their ideas to the whole body of the list.  It was more than a
kangaroo court, it was more something like the Holy Inquisition.

In Peru it is the masses that petition justice, all opinions are sought,
debated and decisions arrived at democratically. Moreover, the masses never
petition justice against people that they do not know from their own
experience.  They petition justice against people they know all too well:
oppressive land owners, oppressive government authorities of the old state,
torturers, snitches, scabs, corrupt elements, thiefs, and everymanner of
anti-social elements who they encounter in their own experience.

That is why the kangaroo court in this list failed, and why People's Justice
in Peru is allowing the long downtrodden, exploited, oppressed and despised
masses to raise their heads and become the actors in their own social
liberation.

I hope you see the difference.


Adolfo Olaechea



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