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Re: working-class subjectivity -Reply
- Subject: Re: working-class subjectivity -Reply
- From: "Bryan A. Alexander" <bnalexan@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:10:42 -0500 (EST)
Sorry, can't find the Gramsci. But don't let that stop me:
Bryan Alexander Department of English
email: bnalexan@xxxxxxxxx University of Michigan
phone: (313) 764-0418 Ann Arbor, MI USA 48103
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On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Adam Rose wrote:
>
> Marx:
>
> "The emancipation of the working class is the act of the working class".
> "The ruling ideas in any society are the ideas of the ruling class".
>
> Gramsci ( paraphrased - I'd be grateful if someone can find the original ) :
>
> "Workers have two consciousnesses, or rather, one contradictory consciousness.
> One represents the future communist society, the other the present"
>
> Lisa :
>
> "It seems contradictory yet true [dialectical?] that the processes of
> capitalism
> simultaneously obscure the true nature of class relations, <cut>, while that
> same exploitation presses down so insistently that workers cannot
> avoid becoming aware of the lies and the theft of their lives,
> generating resistance and organization."
>
Great quotes!
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On the surface, there is a direct contradiction between Marx's assertions
> that the
> emancipation of the working class is the act of the working class, and that
> the ruling ideas in any society are the ideas of the ruling class. How can the
> working class act in its own interests if its ideas are those of the ruling
> class ?
>
> The working class is after all in a different position to previous
> revolutionary
> classes, precisely because workers are completely separated from the means of
> production. Where the bourgeoisie could set up universities, "Royal
> Societies", the
> Freemasons etc under feudalism in order to work out its alternative vision
> for society,
> the working class has no such opportunity.
Two answers come to mind:
1. The ideal, or consciousness. The working class comes to an awareness
of the workings of capital in the most intimate way possible. The
awareness of a thing opens up the possibility of other things, as Adorno
lets us know without relying on identity; or, in the words of Detroit's
own Freddy Perlman: "Wherever there is people, there is negation."
2. Some more praxis - Lisa brought up Kropotkin, and this thread can be
yoked to that one: the working classes have always been the ones to
practice the classic anarchist work of mutual aid, and have historically
often done so. Mutual aid is usually based on use, not exchange value; without
surplus value; on potlach or gift, not money. This is of course a
glimpse at the future society, and one with roots in the present.
> >
> However, precisely how Gramsci's two contradictory consciousnesses work out,
> which
> one tends to dominate in individuals and classes, cannot of course be deduced
> from
> abstract principles. This depends on previous struggles between classes,
> tendencies,
> parties, and the precise location of the individual in that context. Without
> Lenin,
> there would have been no revolution. Nevertheless, Lenin was also a product of
> the Russian Revolution. Also, it is possible that without Plekhanov, Lenin
> would
> have been an alchoholic.
Again, mutual aid is clearly a part of previous struggles between classes
- and let me expand my above two points, to 1b) consciousness of the
past, as well as the present.
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- Thread context:
- Re: working-class subjectivity, (continued)
- Re: working-class subjectivity,
boddhisatva Wed 14 Feb 1996, 04:38 GMT
- Re: working-class subjectivity -Reply,
boddhisatva Wed 14 Feb 1996, 06:03 GMT
- Re: working-class subjectivity -Reply,
Adam Rose Wed 14 Feb 1996, 10:56 GMT
- Re: working-class subjectivity,
Hugh Rodwell Thu 15 Feb 1996, 01:32 GMT
- Re: working-class subjectivity -Reply,
Bryan A. Alexander Thu 15 Feb 1996, 04:10 GMT
- Re: working-class subjectivity -Reply,
Justin Schwartz Thu 15 Feb 1996, 20:36 GMT
- Re: working-class subjectivity,
Bryan A. Alexander Fri 16 Feb 1996, 08:09 GMT
- STALIN (Uncle Joey),
ThomasM343 Mon 12 Feb 1996, 00:27 GMT
- HOLOCAUST FAQ's (a useful reminder),
Luciano Dondero Sun 11 Feb 1996, 22:24 GMT
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