Re: Young Liberal Fascist (XII)

[Kevin Cabral <kcabral@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 8 Feb 1996, SHAWGI TELL wrote:
> A READER CLAIMS that "All sorts of people, including 'good
> communists' and socialists died in his (Stalin's) camps, as did
> many 'religious.' It would help your credibility if you
> acknowledged this and the excesses of his regime. A little of Mao's
> self-criticism would be useful."

>       From the present situation let us take an example of the
> activities of what are called "good communists." Boris Yeltsin was
> a good communist, was he not? He was a member of the Political

        I don't think anyone on this list was talking at all about Boris
Yeltsin, or any of the other fools connected with the Soviet ruling class.

> and their leaders have led the counter-revolution or aided the
> fascist movement, such as the Catholic Church in Poland or the role
> of the Pope during the Second World War. As far as "his (Stalin's)

        But don't forget the thousands of church members who have fought
for civil rights in Latin America, Indochina, and elsewhere who had
nothing to do wtih the fascist movement. While it is extremely true that
the Catholic church is among the most right-wing, at least historically
under Pius II after WW2, the religious who were prosecuted were not
prosecuted "strategically" for socialism as the Young Stalinist would say.
Rather their prosecution was to defend the over-class of Stalin.
                        
> the market). On this front, Stalin made a theoretical contribution,
> while Mao Ze Dong made a theoretical blunder on this and many other
> questions of socialist revolution and construction.

        Stalin? A great theoretician. This is the CPC-MLs position? Is it
also the position of its sister group the CPUSA?

>      Stalin was neither a saint nor a devil. He was one of the
> greatest communist revolutionaries of the twentieth century. His
> name will always be connected with the building of socialism and
> being the architect of the victory over fascism. In theory he made

        Forget it, does anyone actually read these apologies? Who else
seconds that Shawgi take his CPC-ML/Stalinist propaganda elsewhere? Or can
Shawgi give us the information on Stalin's record to back up that he was a
great socialist theoretician? Unless you can re-write history a little
more, sort of like Josef, than I doubt it..

Kevin
Cols, Oh





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