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Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?
So, Chris, please say briefly what your understanding of internal
relations is.
Btw, Tony distances himself from Roemer and Elster, but not from AM like
Fisk and me. I guess he thinks we're dialectical. Maybe we are. Under
certain descriptions I would not reject that label.
--Justin
On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Chris M. Sciabarra wrote:
> Well, at the very least, Tony Smith certainly does his best to distance
> himself FROM the analytic Marxists, given his own treatment of some of
> their stars in his DIALECTICAL SOCIAL THEORY AND ITS CRITICS.
>
> I think one of the best parts of the book is the parallel that Smith
> notes between the Hegelian categories of individual-universal-particular
> (found in Hegel's SCIENCE OF LOGIC), with specific Marxian counterparts.
> What is so wonderful about the analysis is that any attempt to abstract
> any of these parts from the wider totality must lead to distortion in the
> radical project, in Smith's view. I think that the importance of
> internal relations is also subsumed in the dialectical approach, as Hans
> suggests, and that analytic thinkers (not necessarily just analytic
> Marxists) are far more likely to view things in externalist terms. But
> this is a bounded internalism, not the kind of internalism that one would
> find in exotic philosophy texts that assume that there is, or that we can
> know, the internal relationship between, say, the book on my table and
> a butterfly in New Zealand. The dialectical approach focuses on internal
> relations within a specific context, not in terms of an Absolute. That
> is simply a vestige of idealism which is better left in the philosophy texts.
>
> - Chris
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- Thread context:
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
Hans Despain Tue 16 Jan 1996, 22:16 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
glevy Tue 16 Jan 1996, 23:33 GMT
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
Chris M. Sciabarra Wed 17 Jan 1996, 01:21 GMT
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
Justin Schwartz Wed 17 Jan 1996, 04:15 GMT
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
Justin Schwartz Wed 17 Jan 1996, 04:45 GMT
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
zodiac Wed 17 Jan 1996, 22:16 GMT
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
Chris M. Sciabarra Wed 17 Jan 1996, 22:25 GMT
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
HANLY Thu 18 Jan 1996, 01:07 GMT
- Re: The materialist road...Tony Smith?,
Chris M. Sciabarra Thu 18 Jan 1996, 02:25 GMT
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