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Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff"
- Subject: Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff"
- From: "Charles K. MacKay" <ckmackay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:24:16 -0500
Scott --
Please note that I did *** not *** say that you were wrong. What I was
trying to do was show John Ernst that real-world activitists, do, in
fact, commonly say what you said. Thanks.
Charlie
Scott Marshall wrote:
>
> At 07:53 AM 1/14/96 -0500, you wrote:
> >OK, OK -- I confess and surrendur, rather than mine my shelves again.
> >Ollman is the only published person who comes to mind who holds even the
> >weak version of it. But I've been hearing it from comrades toiling among
> >the toiling masses since at least 1964.
> >The practical effect is that if we think The Revolution is historically
> >inevitable, we can fart around; if we have to do it, that requires a far
> >higher degree of concentration.
>
> Yo, guys,
>
> I'll give you a target even though I don't know what teleology means.
>
> I think revolution is inevitable. I don't think that's vulgar marxism at
> all. And in *no* way does it mean you can fart around. Inevitable does not
> mean today, tomorrow or even in ten years, it only means there is a
> progressive direction to history (I think Steven Gould is profoundly wrong
> on this point among others.)
>
> Inevitablity implies even more concentration and effort, not less. Surely
> the conscious element is responsible for fighting for the subjective element
> to hasten the day, and to avoid as much needless suffering and hardship for
> the working class and oppressed people. Workers can't sit and fart with the
> notion that someday this will all be set right - they have no options and
> are suffereing now. What inevitablity *does* give one is a sense of
> confidence that we can win. Not confidence based on 'faith' in change, but
> confidence based on understanding the science of marxism and it's laws of
> development which point in the progressive direction of history.
>
> Asbestos up.
> Scott
>
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- Thread context:
- Re: Althusser versus the Frankfurter, (continued)
- Re: The materialist road / Ralph,
Jukka Laari Sun 14 Jan 1996, 13:11 GMT
- Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff",
Charles K. MacKay Sun 14 Jan 1996, 12:53 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff",
Scott Marshall Mon 15 Jan 1996, 15:53 GMT
- Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff",
Charles K. MacKay Tue 16 Jan 1996, 01:24 GMT
- Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff",
John R. Ernst Tue 16 Jan 1996, 01:31 GMT
- Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff",
glevy Tue 16 Jan 1996, 03:00 GMT
- Re: From Gramsci On / Bryan,
Jukka Laari Sun 14 Jan 1996, 11:58 GMT
- Yugo - a key document for analysis,
Chris, London Sun 14 Jan 1996, 11:25 GMT
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