Re: "Punctual Equilibrium", or "evolutionary stuff"

["John R. Ernst" <ernst@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Charles,

Let's name names.  Who are these vulgar Marxists who still hold
fast to the teleological view?  I am beginning to think it's becoming
a bit vulgar to condemn that which seems to be merely virtually
vulgar.

John


P.S.   Soviet speeches????



Sat, 13 Jan 1996 "Charles K. MacKay" <ckmackay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:


>Marx, of course, never said The Revolution would come by next Tuesday.
>The closest defense of a teleological view that "...The Revolution gotta
>come sometime" is in Bertell Ollman's _Alientation: Marx's View of Man
>etc._ in which he argues that Marx had to have thought that the nature
>of the proletariat under capitalism was such that *** one *** possible,
>and indeed, likely, response, was The Revolution. A "weak" teleological
>interpretation would hold that the proletariat has this state at some
>point in history which may pass without a revolutionary response; a
>"strong" teleological view would hold that the only direction for change
>from the current state for the proletariat is a revolutionary one, and
>Marx seems to come very close to saying this in the Manifesto, which is,
>as has so often been noted on this list, propaganda. Usually the
>teleological view are found in "vulgar" Marxist tracts or official
>Soviet speeches, but it is _an_ interpreation of Marx that is tempting,
>seems to be the obvious one on a superficial reading of some texts, and
>is not _obviously_ wrong at first glance.
>
>John R. Ernst wrote:
>>
>> Charles,
>>
>> Thanks for your post, reproduced below.  There is
>> only one part about which I'd like to know more.
>>
>> Who are these people who hold telelogical views
>> relative to the coming revolution (smile)?  I often
>> hear the postition denounced but I have never
>> heard anyone defend it.   Let me say that I, too,
>> am against it and am in search of the oppostion.
>> //snip//
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