Re: On Stalinism and Trotskyism (was Re: Carlos on Stalinism)

[iwp.ilo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (CEP )]

        Luciano Dondero posting, interjecting his opinions in between
        Chris, Louis and Mine is very interesting, but I will disagree
        with him.  I'm not repeating the post as not to make this
        posting too long:

        1. We agreed with Luciano, I believe, in the basic tenets on
        Stalinism and the garbage addendum that that was for Marxism.

        2.  His examples of Refoundazione and the meeting FCP/LCR, IMO
        are not sufficient to demonstrate his point.  Refoundazione *is
        not* the inheritor of the Stalinist wing of the PCI.  Rather,
        is a coalition-typ of organization as he, himself, explained.
        I believe in Italy the descendant of the Eurocommunist PCI is
        the socialdemocratic PDS.  Is it not?

        As to the meeting between the FCP/LCR, is not the first.  BTW,
        what did they talk about, what did they discuss?  Moreover,
        the meetings of the Stalinist Cuban CP with the
        "Tricontinental" in late 50s and early 60s (including the
        participation of 10/12 Trotskyisyt groups from Latin-American
        did not diminished the Stalinism of the Cuban CP nor produced
        any substantial changes in the relationship between
        Trotskyists- pro Cuban forces in LA, a exception of those who
        capitulated to the other side.

        Let me give you another example.  Scargill, being, in my
        opinion left wing stalinist isproposing the SLP in Britain.
        A call I support and that, if I lived in Britain, I will try
        to follow through with my membership.  He, howver, has proposed
        an Stalinist party constitution for the SLP.  This is exactly
        what I was talking about.  We need to battle this garbage in
        order to build a new marxist movement.

        3) Your distinction between trotskyists (revolutionaries) and
        Stalinists (reformists) as to assign them equal
        responsabilities and somehow diminish the enormous abyss is
        between the crimes of Stalinism and the missdemeanors of
        Trotskyism is a mistake.  Both currents told us for years
        they were "revolutionaries".  So the standard to judge them
        should be the same.  And if we judge them equally, with the
        the same standard all what Trotskyists did were missdemeanors
        while Stalinists committeed huge crimes and capital offenses.


        Comradely,
        Carlos

        P.S.: I think this discussion is very good.  I think Luciano is
        about to convince me of some points.  I think Chris and Louis
        questions are completely appropriate even if I disagreed with
        them.




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