Re: Pabloite revisionism

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You (lOUIS) wrote:
I.
>
>He believed that the CP's were shifting to the left under the impact
of
>the cold war and advocated that Trotskyists become more friendly to
them
>politically.

    Carlos Replies:
    Uhmmmm, Louis, you're forcing me to ... disagree.  Pablo did not
    advocated to be more friendly with Stalinist nor he had the
    theory that Stalinist were shifting to the left.

    What he actually put fordward waas the theory that the cold war
    will conclude with the Third World War.  Pablo stated that that
    war will be won by the Soviet Union and emerging China.

    He stated that in that gigantic and total confrontation was no
    room for any intermediate tendency, even if that tendency was a
    revolutionary one.  He said that, as a case of self-defense,
    Stalinist parties will be forced to fight and will win.  So, he
    proposed "deep entryism" in the existing communist parties as a
    way to be able to confront imperialism in the upcoming world war.

    His call was interpreted as a "de-facto" dissolution of the Fourth
    International.

    Louis wrote:
>
>For this, he was bitterly attacked by the American SWP and the English

>Trotskyists under the helm of the late Gerry Healy, erstwhile guru to
>Vanessa Redgrave, and certified nut-job. They called Pablo a
"liquidationist"
>for wanting to abandon the Fourth International. A split took place in

    Carlos adds:

    ... and the majority of the French section and most of the parties
    in the semicolonial world and, factually, the majority of the
    International.

    Luois wrote:

>the early 1950's and the Americans and the English formed something
called
>the International Committee for the Fourth Internationa [IC]. Pablo's
>followers remained in the International Secretariat [IS].

    Carlos adds:

    The split was after the 1953 Congress.

    Louis wrote:

>Pablo went overboard in his enthusiasm for the Algerian revolution
and, I
>believe, took a cabinet level post in the FLN government. He was shown
to
>the door by Ernest Mandel, Pierre Frank and Livio Maitan, who assumed
the
>new leadership of the IS.

    Carlos adds and question:
    First was the mess around Berlin uprising (Pablo oppossed the
    communist workers in revolt), Hungary 1956 (again, Pablo had a
    pro-Stalinist position) and Yugoeslavia (Pablo was so enamored of
    Tito that organized youth brigades to work for free there)...
    finally came Ben Bella affair ( I don't think he ever took a
    cabinet post in that government --- he was named only as advisor).

    Louis added:
>
>After the Cuban Revolution, the IC and IS discovered that they shared
an
>enthusiasm for the Castro leadership. This laid the groundwork for a
>reunification. Some IC'ers who regarded Castro as being nothing
>different than the Algerian revolutionary leadership didn't go along
with
>this, especially Gerry Healy, and they remained apart.
>
    Carlos adds:

    Uhmmmmm.... I don't think thepositions of the SWP and the
    Mandelites in 1963 (year of the reunification) were close
    on Cuba (mandel have a position of Workers revolutionary
    state), the SWP didn't experienced as yet the "line on
    Cuba" from the present leadership of the SWP.  That came later.

    The Latin American section did not join the reunified movement
    until an year later.

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