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Re: Geistesadel & the ideological classes
- Subject: Re: Geistesadel & the ideological classes
- From: cerebus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(Anna-Sabine, Ernst, Gerwin, Klinger)
- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 07:27:31 +0000
>Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 08:49:20 +0000
>To:"Chris, London" <100423.2040@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>From:cerebus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(Anna-Sabine Ernst, Gerwin Klinger)
>Subject:Re: Geistesadel & the ideological classes
>
>I am struck too by Marx's one clause formula in Capital Vol 1
>Chapter XV Section 7, penultimate paragraph:
>
>"the 'ideological' classes, such as government officials,
>priests, lawyers, soldiers, etc. "
>
>Gruess Dich, Chris!
>I'm unable to find this term in >Das Kapital< I, Kap. 15. Is the citation
>correct. Please give me the name of Chapter 15. In german edition
>chapeter 15 has only 4 paragraphs.
>Seems to be different orders or a mistake.
>In the >Deutsche Ideologie< M/E use the terms: "ideologische Staende" (MEW
>3, 53, cf. >Theorien ueber den Mehwert<, MEW 26.1, 274) and "konzeptive
>Ideologen" (MEW 3, 46) .
> In the >Theorien ueber den Mehrwerty M. uses the term " ideologische etc.
>Klassen" (26.1., 146),in the same sens like "hoehere Staende" or "hoehere
>Arbeiter" (= unproduktive Arbeiter, consumers of suplus-value). Maye be
>here is the formulation you offer to me: "'unproduktive Arbeiter '", die
>" durch den Konflikt der Privatinteressen und der Nationalinteressen (wie
>Staatsleute, alle laywers, Polizisten, Soldaten) noetig werden oder sich
>selbst noetig machen. " "Es war in der Tat die Abhaengigkeit der
>ideologischen etc. Klassen von den Kapitalisten proklamiert." (>Theorien
>uedber den Mehrwert, MEW 26.1, 145f).
>This seems questions of translation and of philological character as well.
>
>Salut
>gk
>
>
>
>
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- Thread context:
- Re: Socialist Labour Party (Militant editorial: 15/12/95), (continued)
- Re: KPD-O,
CEP Mon 18 Dec 1995, 08:15 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- KPD-O,
Wolfgang Haible, Bibliothek Mon 18 Dec 1995, 09:05 GMT
- Das erste Tribunal,
Anna-Sabine, Ernst, Gerwin, Klinger Mon 18 Dec 1995, 07:28 GMT
- Re: Geistesadel & the ideological classes,
Anna-Sabine, Ernst, Gerwin, Klinger Mon 18 Dec 1995, 07:27 GMT
- Farewell Steve,
Chris, London Mon 18 Dec 1995, 07:25 GMT
- Re: William BLAKE and Africa,
Chris, London Mon 18 Dec 1995, 07:25 GMT
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