Re: fascism and unions and the masses

[iwp.ilo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (CEP )]

A brief and concrete answer to Juan:
You wrote:

>Some time ago, Louis declared that my words were his obsession; an
>obsession he could only calm down by drowning it in water from his
outside
(A long post follows)


    Carlos Replies:

    Instead of asking Louis Project, shortly and contundently, to stop
    using a "Microsoft" criticque of your writting as an innappropriate
    way to argue with you .... you elcted the empty phraseology of
    the nothingness and embarked yourself in the defense of the form
    over the content.

    Your long post "explaining" Louis Project lack of sensitivity
    failed to address the very issue at hand: Louis: you should not
    capitulate to you English-centrism to criticize an opponent
    point of view.  After all, we are having the delicacy of trying
    to express ourselves in English.  Period.

    No, you need to go about trying to justify your empty rationale
    of annalyzing the form and confusing it with content.  In the
    same way you tried to confuse Peronism, a historical insignificant
    accident and detour of working class consciousness' history (as
    Stalinism was)... I will repeat your expression: Que asco!

    You wrote:

>Sentences per paragraph: 6 (Marx), 2 (Juan)
>Words per sentence: 30 (Marx), 26 (Juan)
>Characters per word: 4 (Marx), 5 (Juan)
>Passive sentences: 29% (Marx), 23% (Juan)
>=46lesch reading ease: 40.7 (Marx), 37.7 (Juan)
>=46lesch grade level: 14.3 (Marx), 14.8 (Juan)
>=46lesch-Kincaid: 13.9 (Marx), 13.6 (Juan)
>
>Were I a pedantic grammar-checker brained like Louis, I could start
>boasting about my "reading ease" being greater than Marx's! But damn
it, we
>are both far beyond the border of "readability."

    Carlos Replies:

    As your ideology and rationale of common factors is a distortion
    of elementary facts, so is your material annalysis by 1990's
    standards of a translation from german into English from a
    century ago with the English present-day usage by a native
    spanish-speaking person. Your logic in this matter is as poor
    as your pseudo annalysis of Peronism.

    You, miserable Juan, Wrote:

>
>Nahuel Moreno, indeed! In the early '50s Nahuel Moreno was a founding
>member of the "Partido Socialista de la Revolucion Nacional"
(Socialist
>Party of the National Revolution), that boasted about belonging to the
>Peronist movement! In the early '60s Nahuel Moreno was the Director of
the
>"Palabra Obrera" (The Worker Word) newspaper. Just beneath its title,
it
>claimed "Bajo la conduccion del General Peron" (Under the conduction
of
>General Peron)! This is of course something that anyone that has "a
pretty
>good knowledge of Argentinian politics" and that, furthermore, has
taken
>part in the discussions around the PRT in the late '60s can not
ignore.

    Carlos replies:

    Again form over content.  You have to attempt to reduce Nahuel
    Moreno to the point of describing a sentence in a newspaper
    heading or by associating to a multi-tendency party.  Pure
    form and not content about the ideas, program and political
    action (yes, that absent subject in Juan's posting).  I
    challenge Juan, if he dare to discuss Moreno's political and
    practical demonstration of how to create a political organization
    that was capable of competing and overcoming Peronism at one
    time in the centers of working class activity;  yes, the Marxist
    who, *in practice", demonstrated how much a charlatan were people
    like Juan in confronting Peronism, crushed the CP through a
    tactical United front and yes, led many struggles during the 70'
    and 80s.  Where was Juan then?  WEas he trying to confront
    peronism and its influence where it counts? In the working class?
    Or closeted with a book of Marx he couldn't read because he
    was afraid of turning on the light?

    Would you have that discussion about the concreteness of working
    class action and ideology through class struggle?  I doubt it.
    Comradely,
    Carlos




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