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Re: Nationalism, African-American and Quebecois
- Subject: Re: Nationalism, African-American and Quebecois
- From: dhenwood@xxxxxxxxx (Doug Henwood)
- Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 12:20:55 -0400
At 9:11 PM 10/21/95, LeoCasey@xxxxxxx wrote [about me]:
>If I do not read him incorrectly, I think that he would return to a
>basically Debsian socialist view which subsumes African-American oppression
>within a general class exploitation. By contrast, I would like to expand the
>repertoire of analytical concepts so that we could understand race as a
>distinct social form not reducible to class or to nationality.
You read me incorrectly. I've said over & over again here that racism is
real and not reducible to pure class relations (though, as Adolph Reed as
put it, class and race help form each other in America - so I'd temper the
use of the word "distinct"). I think it's politically important to
emphasize class issues as a way of getting white, black, and all other
shades of workers to transcend their racial differences and fight a common
exploiter. Doing that requires all parties to confront racial hostilities;
denying them does no one any good. But I'm stubbornly opposed to anything
that magnifies racial divides, and I think black nationalism and the petty
capitalism of the NOI do exactly that. So too "Afrocentric" education,
which is no more defensible than "Eurocentric" education.
I understand that it's different when a dominant group calls for separate
but equal than when an oppressed group does. But both calls are
fundamentally offensive; in my Utopia, people of all colors, temperaments,
sexes, and erotic preferences will live together in peace. I don't see how
separatism of any kind today can be placed in service of confluence
tomorrow.
But we shouldn't forget that a lot of racial oppression is mixed with class
oppression. Blacks have suffered disproportionally from union-busting and
deindustrialization, despite the chic post-Marxist line that unions and
industry were bastions of white male privilege. (I was told exactly that by
the feminist economist Nancy Folbre.) The war on the welfare state is a mix
of class and race war. Again, a warning against making class and race (and
gender and nation) into "distinct" categories.
Doug
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- Thread context:
- Re: seminar on Fascism,
g . maclennan Sun 22 Oct 1995, 02:29 GMT
- Re: Nationalism, African-American and Quebecois,
LeoCasey Sun 22 Oct 1995, 01:11 GMT
- info request on harassment of David Bohm and Ralph Schiller,
MARQUIT Sat 21 Oct 1995, 23:43 GMT
- Nation of Islam,
Louis N Proyect Sat 21 Oct 1995, 22:54 GMT
- Ultraleft sectarianism,
Louis N Proyect Sat 21 Oct 1995, 22:28 GMT
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