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Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics
- Subject: Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics
- From: "John R. Ernst" <ernst@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 19:53:23 -0400
Steve,
Once again, you are a day ahead of us. You state
that your "aim is to identify those parts of Marx's
analysis that are static and get rid of them." That
would seem to say you've found "those parts."
You then refer me to your works. I'll take one specfic
reference to anything in Book I. Indeed, given you
have references, why not use them to refute Alan's
stuff?
The difficulties I have with your effort here is
that your identification is not only lacking but also
that given a non-simultaneous interpretation much
(probably all) of what you see as mistaken in the
labor theory of value is not. So why do this?
You are fighting against those with whom we both
agree read Marx wrongly.
Yours in yesterday,
John
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995 Steve.Keen@xxxxxxxxxxx said:
>John E comments that in my reply to Jim Miller I "again try to
>save a place for static analysis within the realm of Marx."
>
>Whoops! No I don't John: instead, if anything, my aim is to
>identify those parts of Marx's analysis that are static and
>get rid of them!
>
>Where I differ from the vast majority of Marxists is that I
>believe the labor theory of value is "static", for the reason
>that, in my opinion, it contradicts Marx's fundamental
>dialectical analysis, and I see those dialectics as the
>foundation of a dynamic analysis of capitalism.
>
>All of this is most assuredly not based on second-hand
>readings of Marx--certainly not neoclassical ones--and I
>have assembled quite a large amount of "textual evidence
>for this interpretation", which is published, and which
>this list has on occasions heard quite a bit about.
>
>Don't think I'm a fan of the Sraffians either. Sraffa, yes,
>because as you acknowledge, what he intended and provided
>was a critique of standard economics; but not those who
>mistakenly attempt to apply his 1960 methodology as a
>basis for the analysis of capitalism itself (in fact,
>as I think I noted to this list, I've recently submitted
>a paper to the Review of Political Economy which attempts
>to turn Steedman's critique of Kaleckian economics on
>its head--by providing a dynamic critique of Sraffian
>economics).
>
>Cheers,
>Steve Keen
>
>
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>
--
John R. Ernst
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- Thread context:
- Forwarded: [Nuxalk self-determination],
Ryan Daum Sun 15 Oct 1995, 21:37 GMT
- Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics,
Steve . Keen Sun 15 Oct 1995, 20:38 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics,
John R. Ernst Sun 15 Oct 1995, 21:37 GMT
- Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics,
Steve . Keen Sun 15 Oct 1995, 22:53 GMT
- Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics,
John R. Ernst Sun 15 Oct 1995, 23:53 GMT
- Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics,
Steve . Keen Mon 16 Oct 1995, 02:21 GMT
- Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics,
glevy Mon 16 Oct 1995, 03:39 GMT
- Re: utopia/Freeman's dynamics,
jones/bhandari Mon 16 Oct 1995, 05:04 GMT
- MILLION MORON MARCH,
Ralph Dumain Sun 15 Oct 1995, 19:23 GMT
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