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Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism
- Subject: Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism
- From: Maoist Internationalist Movement <mim3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:12:06 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 11 Oct 1995 glevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> MIM3 wrote:
>
> Would you care to take
> > responsibility for what would have happened in the
> > Soviet Union if it had followed France's or Romania's
> > methods of dealing with World War II?
>
> A truly *stupid* question. When did I ever suggest that the USSR should
> follow "France's or Romania's methods of dealing with World War II"?
>
> > But at least you admit you prefer the status quo.
>
> When did I admit this?
>
> You'd rather the millions starve to death than
> > engage in war and the dictatorship that goes with it.
>
> More distortions.
>
> > Next I will post something we have already done debunking
> > some anti-Stalin trash. It's a taste of what can be found
> > in our theory journals, which anyone can have all 8 of for
> > $25 sent to MIM PO Box 3576, Ann Arbor, MI 48106-3576
>
> Yeah, I can see list members sending in their checks now.
>
> Pat, I've tried to be nice. I started by asking you reasonable questions
> which you have mostly ignored. Since you continue to distort the
> positions of others and make excuses for the murder of millions, I will
> delete your messages unread in the future. I've got better uses of my
> time than to waste it debating ignorant and irrelevant sectarians.
>
> Jerry
Pat for MIM replies: Fine then, the record shows that Jerry
retreated from struggle before ever claiming what he was FOR.
If I wasn't "nice," I apologize, but Marxism is a a philosophy
of struggle, not civility. I get tired of people's laying
millions of dead bodies at my doorstep, undocumented
and unanalyzed. We already said he killed too many. We asked
for citations. We asked for what Jerry is FOR. That turns out
to be not "nice." Indeed there is a huge abyss between
materialism and idealism, and it has nothing to do with what Stalin
did or did not do. Even 40 years dead Joe lends us this service
by helping us separate the wheat from the chaff in scientific
practice.
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- Thread context:
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism, (continued)
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
Maoist Internationalist Movement Wed 11 Oct 1995, 22:56 GMT
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
Maoist Internationalist Movement Wed 11 Oct 1995, 23:08 GMT
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
glevy Thu 12 Oct 1995, 00:45 GMT
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
Maoist Internationalist Movement Thu 12 Oct 1995, 03:37 GMT
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
Maoist Internationalist Movement Thu 12 Oct 1995, 04:12 GMT
- RE: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
g . maclennan Thu 12 Oct 1995, 05:18 GMT
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
g . maclennan Thu 12 Oct 1995, 05:59 GMT
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
Jim Jaszewski Thu 12 Oct 1995, 06:17 GMT
- Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism,
Jim Jaszewski Thu 12 Oct 1995, 23:11 GMT
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