RE: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism

["Jonathan D. Jaynes" <jjaynes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Comrades,

Are we really so blind or so ignorant that we cannot seperate the =
"murderous bungles" from the achievements?  Why is it so difficult to =
admit that both positive and negative can come from the hands of a =
single man?

By implying that since MOST of Stalin's exploits were "murderous =
bungles" then the same can be said about ALL of Stalin's exploits you =
are guilty of a serious logical error and have over simplified the real =
world.

Or you simply have your eyes closed.=20

Jonathan D. Jaynes
jjaynes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From:   g.maclennan@xxxxxxxxxx[SMTP:g.maclennan@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent:   Wednesday, October 11, 1995 7:13 AM
To:     marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:     Louis N Proyect; marxism@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Chris =
Burford
Subject:        Re: Stalin, Mao, idealism and voluntarism


 To tout Stalin's murderous bungles as=20
"achievements" is insufferable.=20


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