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Re: Productive and Unproductive Labor
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995 glevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Is labor employed in the finance sector productive or unproductive in
> Marx's understanding? An interesting question. My understanding is that
> wage labor employed by private capital to produce surplus value is
> productive labor. Yes?
>
Jerry, I think the key is the word "surplus value". To produce surplus
value, value itself must be produced. So what produces value? Yes, it
must be wage labor employed by capital (let's stay away from the problem
of "private" versus "state" capital). To produce value the product must
sustain human life or be used to sustain human life (military production
is excluded, e.g., thus the same Chrysler worker producing automotive cars
and tanks is in one case productive and in the other case non-productive).
"Services" may or may not be productive--repair, for example, is.
Advertising, insurance, banking, etc. are not, as they are only promoting
a realization or accounting funtion--the workers themselves, not
managers and so forth.
This is a complex problem, but this is where I start off.
Paul Zarembka
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- Thread context:
- Re: changes in US labor, (continued)
- Productive and Unproductive Labor,
glevy Tue 01 Aug 1995, 13:06 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Productive and Unproductive Labor,
Paul Zarembka Thu 03 Aug 1995, 12:57 GMT
- Re: Productive and Unproductive Labor,
glevy Thu 03 Aug 1995, 13:37 GMT
- Re: Productive and Unproductive Labor,
Paul Zarembka Fri 04 Aug 1995, 01:46 GMT
- Re: Productive and Unproductive Labor,
Paul Cockshott Fri 04 Aug 1995, 02:45 GMT
- Re: Productive and Unproductive Labor,
glevy Fri 04 Aug 1995, 03:12 GMT
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