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Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE
- Subject: Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE
- From: "Bryan A. Alexander" <bnalexan@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:17:44 -0400 (EDT)
"...a somewhat different light is shed on this odd prejudice by the
realization that laughter here is conceived as essentially Homeric - that
is, a ferocious vaunting, with bared teeth, over the victim, as
exemplified, for example, by Wyndham Lewis's Tryos; while we should also
read into the record Adorno's frequent exception - from such denunciations
of sheer malicious 'fun' - of the genuinely zany, such as the Marx
brothers..."
Fred "The Man" Jameson, LATE MARXISM, 145
Bryan Alexander
Department of English
University of Michigan
**********************
On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Santiago Colas wrote:
> Hilarious! My response to the pop quiz:
> 1."Blew up once" is obviously the central kernel of the punch-line and,
> as such, it houses, again obviously, two meanings, one totally banal and
> unfunny and the other pretty tragic (if you care about Christa McAuliffe
> or someone who did). Yet juxtaposed, fused as it were in this single
> phrase, the thing is funny. So the humor, if you ask me, resides
> somewhere in the liminal (sorry about that word) space between the two
> "literal" meanings. I seem to remember from a comedy class I took in
> college some essay by Bergson on humor where he emphasized a certain
> juxtaposition of the cosmic and the banal as the source of humor (anyone
> else remember?) and I remember we played it out by reading Woody Allen's
> Getting Even and Without Feathers. Something along these lines is at
> work in Ralph's joke.
>
> 2.However, there's another edge (maybe it comes from Adorno or somewhere
> in the Frankfurt school, if I remember vaguely correctly) where the laugh
> is like a cannibalistic, aggressive gesture, right? so it wouldn't be so
> mucha bout the pleasure you take in laughing, unless (as I've said
> before) the pleasure resides precisely in the act of agression which
> laughing involves.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Santiago Colas e-mail: scolas@xxxxxxxxx
> Asst. Professor phone: (313) 763-4352
> Latin American and Comparative Literature fax: (313) 764-8163
> University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1275
> USA
>
> On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Ralph Dumain wrote:
>
> > Santiago isn't funny, but he's thinking. What, pleasure be
> > recognized by the Vanguard Party? No use value here, comrades.
> >
> > As a Deborinite menshevizing idealist, I'm far more interested in
> > the dykealicktickle materialist approach than the hysterectical
> > part. I don't know what historicizing pleasure means (get the
> > Hook ready), but I do know that we love to laugh at disaster.
> > What makes one joke merely cute and another one riproaring? Could
> > it be the profundity of the simultaneous absurdity and truth
> > encapsulated within it?
> >
> > Remember all those jokes that followed the Challenger explosion in
> > 1986? Most of them centered around the star of that show, Christa
> > McAuliffe, the teacher who went along for the ride into Space.
> > Well, my fellow humorologists and I collected them all. Without a
> > doubt, there is one joke that stands out above the rest. It may
> > not Further the Struggle, but here it is:
> >
> > Q: Why was Crista McAuliffe such a good teacher?
> >
> > A: She only blew up once in front of the class.
> >
> > After you are done laughing, please explain why this is so funny.
> > This is a pop quiz, so get out those keyboards and pixels and get
> > to it.
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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- Thread context:
- Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE, (continued)
- Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE,
LMILLER Mon 05 Jun 1995, 03:20 GMT
- Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE,
Santiago Colas Mon 05 Jun 1995, 13:28 GMT
- Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE,
Ralph Dumain Mon 05 Jun 1995, 15:08 GMT
- Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE,
Santiago Colas Tue 06 Jun 1995, 04:33 GMT
- Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE,
Bryan A. Alexander Tue 06 Jun 1995, 12:17 GMT
- Re: MARXIST HUMOR: UNITY OF THEORY & PRACTICE,
wdrb Wed 07 Jun 1995, 13:09 GMT
- Bristol Marxist Forum,
wdrb Fri 02 Jun 1995, 14:44 GMT
- A Marxist theory of Humor?,
glevy Fri 02 Jun 1995, 12:54 GMT
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