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Re: Marxist humoristic propaganda?
- Subject: Re: Marxist humoristic propaganda?
- From: Jukka Laari <jlaari@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 17:10:50 +0300 (EET DST)
On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Michael Hesemann wrote:
> In former East-Germany humor and cabaret was almost the only means of pub=
lic
> opposition. Maybe you have heard of Wolf Biermann, who was thrown out of =
GDR
> for his "humor".=20
Yes, and Nina Hagen - though she wasn't so 'political' (I mean, in=20
ordinary sense) as Biermann=B4 But on the other hand, she was tougher=20
phenomenon than Biermann? But more to the point...
> I think you should take the propaganda-effect more=20
> serious, espec. if you think of the weakness of the left movement in=20
> the US. Think of Gramsci`s idea about achieving an ideological hegemony.
Exactly. But I'm not sure whether it should be understood as a mean to=20
produce changes in (people's) thinking processes or as a mean to maintain=
=20
the 'ideology' of leftists.=20
And: does, say, marxist humor produce changes in the minds of=20
non-marxist people, or should that kind of operation be more=20
'apolitical'? I have in mind that british... uhh... Kenny Everett in the=20
late seventies: surely not party political person, but perhaps just=20
because of that people from left and right laughed at his crazy jokes at=20
least in our bar. Or that NBC guy, Jay Leno, does he have any kind of=20
political influence?=20
I don't know that kind of literature. If anyone has some interesting=20
books in mind then, please, inform the rest of us!
> John Heartfield or Kurt Tucholsky are examples for satiric and humoristic
> propaganda. Their heritage should be preserved and developed.=20
Yup. I don't know of english translations, but in finnish there aren't=20
much translations of Tucholsky. And in german I surely miss the points,=20
unfortunately...=20
Yours, Jukka Laari
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- Thread context:
- Re: the last word on marxist humor, (continued)
- Mental/manual,
Justin Schwartz Sun 04 Jun 1995, 17:27 GMT
- Re: Marxist humoristic propaganda?,
Jukka Laari Sun 04 Jun 1995, 14:10 GMT
- LTV/HUMOR/RIGHTS,
Ron Press Sun 04 Jun 1995, 08:01 GMT
- Humor/LTV/Rights,
Ron Press Sun 04 Jun 1995, 07:59 GMT
- Anti-Irish Humor,
glevy Sun 04 Jun 1995, 03:57 GMT
- GROUCHO MARXIST THEORY OF HUMOR -- WHY A DUCK?,
Ralph Dumain Sun 04 Jun 1995, 01:52 GMT
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