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Re: Psychoanalysis and marxism
- Subject: Re: Psychoanalysis and marxism
- From: Santiago Colas <scolas@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:08:52 -0400 (EDT)
Without really looking to invalidate Chris' thoughts on this, and without
knowing what came before, I'd like to add a couple of thoughts from what
may be, for some, an unacceptably academic and/or literary/cultural
perspective. Fred Jameson, _The Political Unconscious_, Jean-Joseph Goux,
_Symbolic Economies_, of course, Deleuze and Guattari, the two volumes of
_Capitalism and Schizophrenia_, and just about anything by Slavoj Zizek.
I guess these aren't really thoughts, just some potential points of
departure.
Santiago
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On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Chris Burford wrote:
> Perhaps as the only psychiatrist reading this list (?), I may be taken to
> symbolise what as Guy Yashko indicates, is a recurring theme in 20th
> century marxism: what is the link with psychoanalysis, or individual
> psychology more widely?
>
> My contribution in reality of course is limited and I would appreciate if
> Guy writes a few comments on the book by Joel Whitbrook he mentioned.
>
> 3 points briefly however:
>
> 1) I am strongly influenced by a psychoanalyst called SH Foulkes who was
> almost certainly influenced by the Frankfurt School, and who started
> using psychodynamic techniques in a group setting. Whereas some dynamic
> group analysts like Bion, in crude summary, will elaborate psychodynamic
> issues of an individual group member *in* the group, Foulkes's method is
> a psychodynamic one *of* the group. It susses out a group matrix, which
> starts as an initial set of shared assumptions and which is remoulded by
> the interactions between members of the group who see aspects of
> themselves reflected in the others.
>
> Therefore I think I have seen such processes on this list interestingly
> even though we are not in face to face contact: perhaps that can make it
> more intense. The recent exchanges between Scott and Justin for example
> were at one level a warm exploration of their differences which
> constructively led to some mutual acceptance of difference and the
> opportunity to acknowledge where their interests positively reflected one
> another. In Foulkesian group dynamic theory this can be commented on not
> just at the level of the individual interchange, but as "speaking for the
> group". Justin and Scott enacted something that had a relevance for much
> of the whole group. While we watched silently, our mental processes were
> engaged. [*especially* engaged were those who are just about to hit
> the keyboard to say how totally infuriating it was!]
>
> 2. I think with each decade the concepts of projection and introjection
> emerge more powerfully as core concepts of human interaction not only at
> the individual level but at the social level. We are like chemical
> elements with valencies that immediately get almost hopelessly stuck on
> one another by some strange unconscious process, until we are disloged by
> another element coming along. We powerfully see part objects of ourselves
> in others. Whatever his theoretical abilities, Stalin could not have had
> the power he did if he had not been *loved* by hundreds of thousands.
> Seriously. Seriously. Critiques now that just concentrate on how much he
> should be detested, will never be able to analyse concretely all the
> dialectical *social* interactions involved in the existence of Stalin.
> Indeed they just manifest that he is now to be a major *negative*
> political part object for all of us.
>
> I suspect that the imaginary aspect of commodities (remember folks, the
> great man said they could fulfil needs of the imagination - you do
> remember that don't you?) could usefully be discussed further in terms of
> projected psychological part objects.
>
> 3. The personal is political. This slogan of the feminists is not just a
> way of undermining much needed class solidarity but an insistence that
> there is a continuity of fractal levels between the global and the
> personal. To deny this is not IMO dialectical or marxist. And to guard
> against fanciful toying with psychoanalytic ideas in a disorientating
> way, I believe that the discussion of psychoanalysis and marxism is best
> located in this context.
>
>
>
> Chris Burford, London.
>
>
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- Thread context:
- Re: Sorry, (continued)
- Re: Sorry,
jwalker Fri 28 Apr 1995, 15:20 GMT
- Re: Sorry,
Guy Yasko Fri 28 Apr 1995, 23:05 GMT
- Re: Sorry,
boddhisatva Sun 30 Apr 1995, 03:44 GMT
- Psychoanalysis and marxism,
Chris Burford Fri 28 Apr 1995, 05:58 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Psychoanalysis and marxism,
Santiago Colas Fri 28 Apr 1995, 13:08 GMT
- Re: Psychoanalysis and marxism,
Jon Beasley-Murray Fri 28 Apr 1995, 15:05 GMT
- Re: Psychoanalysis and marxism,
Scott Mobley Sat 29 Apr 1995, 15:24 GMT
- Re: Psychoanalysis and marxism,
Chris Burford Sat 29 Apr 1995, 19:09 GMT
- Re: Psychoanalysis and marxism,
Scott Mobley Sun 30 Apr 1995, 01:09 GMT
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