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Re: Marxism as science -Reply
- Subject: Re: Marxism as science -Reply
- From: "Bernard J. Goitein" <bjg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:46:57 -0500 (CDT)
Pete-
You say, "If anything, observation hinders science....?"
What, then, is the proper role of empirical data for science? Or do you
propose reliance on pure reason as a better source of knowledge (sounds like
my dim memories of Plato)?
Bernie Goitein
On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Pete Bratsis wrote:
> Sorry, I got cut off. Continuing -
>
> This conception of science is directly opposed to that held by empericists.
> Science is not based on observation. If anything, observation hinders
> science since it creates this focus on apperences and a fixation with
> the first experience. Thus, we will 'abstract' or 'generalize' from
> this experience so that our particular relation with reality becomes
> what Bachelard would term 'false' science. (For a brief example
> see ch. 5 of The Psychoanalysis of Fire, or, read The New Scientific
> Spirit).
>
> At any rate, I am tring to make explict that AM is not necessarily
> more 'scientific' than other Marxisms - although it certainly is more
> empericist than most others.
> (An excellect examination of the misrepresentations of science
> through empericism and its negative effects within contemporary political
> theory is John Gunnell's Between Philosophy and Politics.)
>
>
> It is also no less 'bullshit' just because it adopts empericist methods.
> For example, what we could term
> I AM HAVING COMPUTER PROBLEMS WILL CONTINUE LATER>
>
> PETER BRATSIS
>
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- Thread context:
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply, (continued)
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Pete Bratsis Wed 19 Apr 1995, 03:46 GMT
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Pete Bratsis Wed 19 Apr 1995, 04:49 GMT
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Santiago . Colas Wed 19 Apr 1995, 13:33 GMT
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Justin Schwartz Wed 19 Apr 1995, 14:48 GMT
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Bernard J. Goitein Wed 19 Apr 1995, 17:46 GMT
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Pete Bratsis Wed 19 Apr 1995, 18:56 GMT
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Justin Schwartz Wed 19 Apr 1995, 19:59 GMT
- Marxism as science,
jones/bhandari Wed 19 Apr 1995, 20:08 GMT
- Re: Marxism as science -Reply,
Philip Goldstein Sun 23 Apr 1995, 12:24 GMT
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