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Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics)
- Subject: Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics)
- From: Paul Cockshott <wpc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 95 20:01:29 GMT
Howie writes:
1) Paul says that "the domestic mode of production is
non-commodity
producing". This raises two questions. First, what is the
"domestic mode of
production"? Did it ever exist as a dominant mode of production?
What are
its characteristic social relations? Second, if it is not
commodity-producing, how do we assess the reproduction of the
commodity
"labour power"? Labour power, as I understand it, is a special
commodity in
that it is capable of producing a greater amount of value than is
required
for its own reproduction. But still it must be reproduced, and
this
reproduction requires a certain quantity of socially necessary
labour, that
is transferred to commodity-producing workers in their off hours,
at home.
So, would it not be fair to say that the domestic context does
produce
commodities, albeit of a special type, labour power?
What I said about the domestic mode of production is much influenced by
Christine Delphy and her book 'Close to Home', with its analysis of
production realtions in the French peasant household. She uses these
to show that 'housework' is best understood as a remnant form of the
domestic mode of production, which in pre-capitalist agricultural
economies probably involved the greater part of all performed labour.
In this sense it was the dominant mode of production in what we
normally call feudal economies as well as in non-commercial slave
agriculture.
According to her analysis it is a distinct mode of production with its
own mode of extracting the unpaid labour - primarily of women but
also of subordinate male relatives, for the benefit of the pater
familius.
It persists into the capitalist period, and along with it persists
the slavery of women sanctified in marriage.
2) Paul raises the prospect at the end of his post that the
forward march of
the socialisation of production will increasingly draw an ever
greater part
of our lives into commodity forms ("children being taught at
school rather
than at home, food been cooked in canteens and burger bars
etc,"). As I
understand the thrust of this argument it is that the problem
with
capitalism is that it tries to contain social activities within
the
straightjacket of private ownership. However, this raises
questions as to
the relationship between processes of "socialisation" and of
"commodification". Are certain activities "socialised" under
capitalism
because they are "commodified", or does capitalist
"commodification" prevent
the "true" socialised nature of certain activities from
manifesting itself?
For example, is our vision of socialism a society where all
domestic
activities are "socialised"?
I see the struggle for communism as a struggle for the abolition of
private property, family and the state. But this struggle only has
historical potential to the extent that the tendancies of the capitalist
system lead towards it. The abolition of private property within the
integument of private property with the centralisation of capital is
a well developed theme of marxist theory. The abolition of family as
a political program, is grounded in the tendancy of capital to errode
the domestic economy. As the product of cooking becomes a commodity,
the labour of cooking becomes social labour (unlike home baking).
True, under capitalism this is only indirectly social labour, it requires
sale to validate it, but in the process the labour becomes paid
labour and is recognised by society.
Whilst the slogan of wages for housework is utopian, the transformation
of 'housework' into waged work is not - it is part of the dynamic of
capitalism well documented by Braverman for instance.
I would have said that the vision we should have of socialism is one in
which formerly domestic labour is socialised or at least communalised.
If people no longer lived in bourgeois families but in communes or
Kibbutz type organisations, what was once 'domestic' work can become
social labour paid at the same rate as any other.
Paul
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- Thread context:
- Re: Choas/marx, (continued)
- Ollman and Dialectics,
SCIABRRC Fri 31 Mar 1995, 17:10 GMT
- Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics),
Howie Chodos Fri 31 Mar 1995, 04:15 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics),
Kevin T. Mahoney Fri 31 Mar 1995, 17:46 GMT
- Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics),
Paul Cockshott Fri 31 Mar 1995, 20:01 GMT
- Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics),
Kevin T. Mahoney Fri 31 Mar 1995, 21:48 GMT
- Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics),
Chris Burford Fri 31 Mar 1995, 22:09 GMT
- Re: Use Value (and not really Aesthetics),
Louis N Proyect Fri 31 Mar 1995, 23:35 GMT
- Insurance industry vrs. Marx,
n . gant Fri 31 Mar 1995, 00:58 GMT
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