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Re: Marx vs.Stirner
- Subject: Re: Marx vs.Stirner
- From: Ralph Dumain <rdumain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 10:07:26 -0800
>Hegel, in my opinion, decided on duty in the conflict of duty
>versus inclination; Stirner decided on the latter,
And for Marx it was neither.
>and for me is the only way out of the totalitarian (in both
>senses of this word) Weltanschauung.
And what is the way out of liberalism? Or has that already been
decided by the exhaustion of liberalism?
>I think that the idea of the historical inevitability of the
>proletarian uprising is crucial here.
I don't see how the following conclusion follows from this
statement.
>It really is going to take that impossible "change of heart"
>that Marx thought he had obviated.
You are setting up a dichotomy between 'change of heart' and
historical conditions that doesn't exist for Marx. Maybe you've
read too much Stalinist and Maoist crap.
>Ideas have a force outside of economic determinations.
Do ideas have a force outside of social determination as a whole?
Marx's world-view is not limited to a narrow economism.
>The ideal in Marx's formulation is directly derived from
>Feuerbach in that the "revolutionary" individual should aspire
>to a condition of cooperation in production and consumption.
I don't see this "should" at all in Marx.
>This amounts to a moral injunction at odds with Marx's
>determinist science of materialism.
Again, I think your interpretation is dualistic in a way that I
don't see Marx being, not in 1845-6.
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- Thread context:
- Re: Re: Marx & Stirner, (continued)
- Marx, Stirner, autonomist marxism,
sj Sat 31 Dec 1994, 02:58 GMT
- Postone,
Patrick Patterson Fri 30 Dec 1994, 20:31 GMT
- Re: More junk mail,
Jonathan P. Beasley-Murray Fri 30 Dec 1994, 18:55 GMT
- Re: Marx vs.Stirner,
Ralph Dumain Fri 30 Dec 1994, 18:07 GMT
- MOISHE POSTONE,
jones/bhandari Fri 30 Dec 1994, 08:47 GMT
- Re: Hegelian scholar Raya Dunayevskaya's views,
Ralph Dumain Fri 30 Dec 1994, 05:12 GMT
- MARX VS. STIRNER,
Ralph Dumain Thu 29 Dec 1994, 06:45 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Marx vs. Stirner,
Alex Trotter Fri 30 Dec 1994, 03:11 GMT
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