Fw: "wilding" and other matters

[Michael Pugliese <debsian@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

   Just as I suspected, the old "proletarian" death penalty vs. the
"bourgeois" death penalty, and nostalgia for sending the evil bourgeoisie to
the countryside to do hard labor.  Or like Venceremos Brigade members in the
70's that said their was "proletarian electro-shock" and "bourgeois
electro-shock' (articles in the anarcho-pacifist magazine, "Liberation, "
from the mid-70's, collected in book edited by future neo-con, Ronald Radosh
on Cuba) It's not as if I haven't in my worst moments wished the yuppies
with their cell phones do get brain cancer, but the thought usually passes,
and I really its scapegoating. And I try to prevent constructing my politics
from anger distorted in that direction.
                                                                  Michael
Pugliese

----- Original Message -----
From: The Infamous Vinnie Gangbox (by way of louisgodena@xxxxxxx (Louis R
Godena)) <gangbox@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <debsian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: "wilding" and other matters


> Michael;
>
> Here's a follow-up comment from Greg Butler:
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> Louis:
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> Thanks for forwarding that piece I wrone on the Central Park "wilding".
Did
> any of the fake leftist idiots respond to it?
>
> Also, I saw on the news last night a USA Today reporter, a Black woman,
> watched ALL of the tapes [not just the heavily edited versions that were
> shown over and over again on the TV news], and she reported just what I
> said, that most of the interactions between the men and women were
basically
> normal teenaged boy/girl horseplay [ they showed some of THOSE tapes also,
> aparently about 95% of the tapes showed that kind of thing]
>
> But, despite those inconveninent FACTS, there still is a campaign, from
all
> ends of the political spectrum here, from Giuliani to Sharpton, for more
> police repression.
>
> It's amazing how "liberals" and "progressives" are so quick to embrace
state
> represson of "the dangerous classes". Was it like that in Germany before
> Hitler came to power?
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> <snip>
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> Later, comrade.
>
> GREG
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> On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:41:32 -0400 (EDT), Louis R Godena wrote:
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>   Hi Greg;
>
>   Good piece on the Central park 'incident' -- I forwarded it to
>   marxism-international.  It amazes me (still) how our demoralized and
>   tattered "Left" gladly does the bourgeoisie's dirty work for them, in
> effect
>   *begging* for more and more repression.  Soon, they will *insist* that
the
>   government become closely involved in every intimate detail of our
private
>   lives.  I heard some serious body at Rhode Island College the other
night
>   call for the *death penalty* for crimes against gays and lesbians, even
if
>   these crimes do not result in any deaths.  This was testimony sponsored
by
>   an anti-poverty group, demanding more "police protection" [sic] for
>   "at-risk" groups [i.e., those groups for whom they receive funding].
>   Un-fucking-believable!  Rhode Island has not executed anyone since the
>   1850s, and does not now have the death penalty.  I would support the
>   reinstating of capital punishment only if the workers took over and we
>   needed to get rid of some particularly noxious exploiters among the
upper
>   classes.  The others I would settle for a public horsewhipping and hard
>   labor in some useful occupation -- which would be a novel experience or
>   most of them.
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