Andrew Wayne Austin wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Doug Henwood wrote:
>I know you're a big Goldhagen fan, Andy, but just why were the >Germans such anti-Semites, and why didn't other European countries >get the idea of gassing Jews?
You are wrong about this, Doug. Anti-Semitism was widespread throughout Europe, not just in Germany, and it had been for centuries.
That was precisely my point. Why did the idea of anti-Semitism lead to such a disastrous outcome in Germany, but nowhere else? The images, taunts, discriminations were no worse in Germany, were they? Why did Germans act on what others merely thought?
Observers are typically puzzled how, without orders or coercion, millions of people can be slaughtered. Researchers like Goldhagen provide an important element to the explanation, one that has been particularly neglected by Marxists.
Hardly neglected; a Marxist I know, Norman Finkelstein, says Goldhagen is all wet. But we've been here already.
Doug
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